11 Jan '12 20:23>
Should violent groups of people be allowed to exist in civilized society?
Originally posted by DasaThis is actually a topic close to my heart and contrary to my liberal beliefs I have a quite draconian outlook on dealing with violence. I believe that sentencing for violent crime compared to say fraud or other "money" crimes is ridiculously lenient.
Should violent groups of people be allowed to exist in civilized society?
Originally posted by PsychoPawnDasa's solution to this dilemma:
If you act violently to get rid of violent groups haven't you become a violent group and hence don't deserve to exist in a civilized society?
Originally posted by wolfgang59I would agree with you in part (I am also highly liberal and libertarian in my political/social outlook)
This is actually a topic close to my heart and contrary to my liberal beliefs I have a quite draconian outlook on dealing with violence. I believe that sentencing for violent crime compared to say fraud or other "money" crimes is ridiculously lenient.
My view is that any persistent violent offenders should be taken out of civilised society and allowed ...[text shortened]... d expect the highest restraint to be used and absolute minimum violence to achieve objectives.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatThat is just too bad that they are following a violent religious group.
Ubertroll is back I see.
As I see it, the main error in your (and I use this term in the loosest possible sense) 'reasoning', Dasa, is that you are pre-judging people based on the actions of other people who just happen to follow the same religion as they. Is this prescribed in the Vedas?
Originally posted by DasaObviously, people in a society need to be protected from those who act violently. That is why countries have police forces and prisons.
Should violent groups of people be allowed to exist in civilized society?
Originally posted by MelanerpesYou are talking like a liberal. I say just terminate the bastards. 😏
Obviously, people in a society need to be protected from those who act violently. That is why countries have police forces and prisons.
But what do we do when a given country's criminal justice system fails, or it becomes inhumane? What happens if civil war breaks out? Should the rest of the world do nothing while blood is being shed? Or should other c ...[text shortened]... ng from eliminating that regime is likely to lead to chaotic anarchy or a terrible civil war?
Originally posted by MelanerpesThat might depend on the ability of the potentially intervening countries to actually do something beneficial about it.
Obviously, people in a society need to be protected from those who act violently. That is why countries have police forces and prisons.
But what do we do when a given country's criminal justice system fails, or it becomes inhumane? What happens if civil war breaks out? Should the rest of the world do nothing while blood is being shed? Or should other c ...[text shortened]... ng from eliminating that regime is likely to lead to chaotic anarchy or a terrible civil war?