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Since atheism is a belief

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Have you met that human creator? Have you seen the sketches? What makes you so sure that is the only bugs bunny?

Are you suggesting that my belief in a god does not require "concrete evidence" in order for you to believe? What would you constitute as "concrete" in that scenario? Does my personal evidence for me that there is a god, fall into what you would classify as "concrete" and if not why not?
I just don't think it is as easy as you suggest to divide things into 'concrete evidence available' and 'no concrete evidence available'.
I am atheist because I consider the evidence against the existence of anything reasonably called 'God' to be just as concrete as the evidence against bugs bunny. I think you are wrong to suggest there is a fundamental difference between your abugsbunnyism and my atheism.

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No. We really don't "know that [this argument] is ridiculous".

It's exactly the same argument as the Flying Spaghetti Monster [FSM] was meant to
highlight.


We can trace in history people making up the Christian religion, just like any and every other
religion. Just as we can trace in history people making up Buggs Bunny and the FSM.

The arguments against either existing are JUST AS STRONG.

Just because people have been indoctrinated for thousands of years to believe that belief in god/s
is perfectly reasonable and that belief in similarly unfounded beings is unreasonable doesn't
mean that gods have a special exemption from the rules of evidence and proof.

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I 'could' explain how we DO actually know that nuclear power works as advertised, but that would
be a massive topic that is irrelevant to the point. Suffice it to say we do have very strong evidence
that nuclear technology is real and works.

Just ask the Japanese.

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No, it is not ridiculous. You just haven't thought it through. Because you prejudged it ridiculous you failed to address it reasonably.
What do you even mean when you say Bugs Bunny doesn't exist? The cartoon clearly does exist. So what is it that doesn't exist that you have concrete evidence of its non existence for? Are you claiming that there are no bunnies? Are you claiming that there is no bunny named 'Bugs'? Are you claiming that there is no real life bunny that looks exactly like the cartoon depiction? What if there is a bunny named Bugs that looks very similar to the one in the cartoon but has a slightly different accent? Would that count or not? Are you a hyper literalist when it comes to cartoons but not with regards to Genesis?
I think it was your attempt at dismissing the bugs bunny argument that was ridiculous and not the argument itself.

Have you conducted every experiment that every scientist has ever made? How do you know one or some or all of them are lying. How do you know that nuclear power exists and is not just massive steam engines disguised as nuclear power stations? You know it the same way I know that bugs bunny isn't God.
Did anybody say bugs bunny was God? That is not the proposition in the OP. An abugsbunnyist merely believes that there is no bugs bunny. You claimed to have concrete evidence that bugs bunny doesn't exist in your first post of the thread. You said nothing about believing that bugs bunny isn't God.

You're a smart guy, try treating people with a little respect, see where it gets you.
You are a smart guy. Stop seeing insults that are not there. I have not, as far as I am aware, shown you a lack of respect in this thread.


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And God is a Biblical character. But that is not the question at hand. The question is whether bugs bunny is anything more than a cartoon character, something for which you almost certainly have no direct evidence whatsoever.

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All that could possibly prove is the existence of humans that venerated Bugs Bunny to such extent they created drawings and sketches. It does not prove Bugs Bunny fails to exist

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I do indeed agree with that.

However, if gifted with further information like, oh I don't know, let's say ...
"God is all loving" AND "God will damn the unsaved to fiery hell for all eternity"

then I can certainly claim to have proof that that notion of God does not exist on account of the contradiction we would have if he did exist.

Further wrt to Bugs Bunny and your counter here, though I cannot claim to have proof they don't exist just on the basis of human authors, I am quite justified to lack both belief and intent to bring about a change in that position.

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yeah I have a tendency to do that ... I think I'm finished with it now though.