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Sincere and sufficient effort

Sincere and sufficient effort

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What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?

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@FMF
walk a mile in another's shoes

it seems sorta simplistic, eh???
that's the reason for platitudes

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@FMF

Listening to what you say you believe if they care to know. There is no moral obligation to understand others. This is what I believe.

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@rookie54 said
@FMF
walk a mile in another's shoes

it seems sorta simplistic, eh???
that's the reason for platitudes
Walk a mile in your enemies shoes. That way, you'll be a mile away from your enemy,...and you'll have his shoes.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Walk a mile in your enemies shoes. That way, you'll be a mile away from your enemy,...and you'll have his shoes.
Haha! Good one, Ghost. We need more humour on this Forum!

To answer FMF's OP, I would say that if you can verbalise the other's POV and feed it back with the same emotion as it was given, to the extent that he/she says: "Yes, that is exactly what I believe", then I say one has earned the right to offer a rebuttal.

I have taught my sons variations of this process and we use it when we have serious arguments!

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@fmf said
What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?
I wouldn't say -- not here.

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@fmf said
What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?
Once the person has made the effort to understand the internal logic, and has been charitable to that logic, I think it is safe to say that they have made a sincere effort.

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@philokalia said
Once the person has made the effort to understand the internal logic, and has been charitable to that logic, I think it is safe to say that they have made a sincere effort.
"Charitable"?

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@philokalia said
Once the person has made the effort to understand the internal logic, and has been charitable to that logic, I think it is safe to say that they have made a sincere effort.
The crux of question, which your answer doesn't quite address, is this: What would you say constitutes a sufficient effort?

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@fmf said
What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?
Hogwash.

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@secondson said
Hogwash.
It's a reasonable question: What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?

I don't see how "hogwash" is an answer to it.

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@fmf said
What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?
To be respectful and hopefully get that back in return. Doesn't always happen though.

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@fmf said
What would you say constitutes a sincere and sufficient effort by a person to know and understand and consider your beliefs?
If we discuss beliefs, they engage mine in a way that shows they understand what I've told them (even if they don't agree with said beliefs).

I try to do the same.