Spirituality: Quotations

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[I]Originally posted by Grampy Bobby[/i] (OP)

"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV

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Because beliefs effect decisions, decisions effect actions, actions effect others,
so what others think matters.

And you are a total and complete moron if you can't comprehend that.

Stop asking that really truly deeply idiotic question.

It's been answered a hundred times already, and the answer is obvious to anyone
with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Because beliefs effect decisions, decisions effect actions, actions effect others,
so what others think matters.

And you are a total and complete moron if you can't comprehend that.

Stop asking that really truly deeply idiotic question.

It's been answered a hundred times already, and the answer is obvious to anyone
with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

May I ask a personal question? When did you last learn something new?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
May I ask a personal question? When did you last learn something new?

I learn new things every day... pretty much.

When do you last learn anything?

Originally posted by googlefudge
I learn new things every day... pretty much.

When do you last learn anything?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)

"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV

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In Scientific Exploration, objective scientists actually welcome being proven wrong so that their search for absolute reality may continue less encumbered with faulty premises and unsupported conclusions. Even Albert Einstein eventually realized that the end of all scientific tunnels is either falsity or a leap of faith. Why do most atheists refuse to accept the possibility that their summary dismissals may be wrong? Why wouldn't all honest atheists welcome the possibility that God exists?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Because beliefs effect decisions, decisions effect actions, actions effect others,
so what others think matters.

And you are a total and complete moron if you can't comprehend that.

Stop asking that really truly deeply idiotic question.

It's been answered a hundred times already, and the answer is obvious to anyone
with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
May I ask a personal question? When did you last learn something new?


Originally posted by googlefudge
I learn new things every day... pretty much.

When do you last learn anything?

> Thank you. I'm learning that atheists are often uncomfortable with the posture they assume;
and that anger over threats to status betrays an underlying discontent and searching soul.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)

"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV

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In Scientific Exploration, objective scientists actually welcome being proven wrong so that their search for absolute reality may continue less encu ...[text shortened]... me;
and that anger over threats to status betrays an underlying discontent and searching soul.

Thank you. I'm learning that atheists are often uncomfortable with the posture they assume;
and that anger over threats to status betrays an underlying discontent and searching soul.

Then you are learning yet more falsehoods.


I am not even remotely uncomfortable with my position.

And you pose precisely zero threat my status... although what the hell status you mean I have no idea.

No, what annoys me, is that you are incapable of listening to explanations that some time, effort and
thought went into constructing.

You keep asking your ridiculous question after many of us have spent some time answering it in detail.

And you ignored all of us.

You couldn't be bothered to take 30 seconds to think, to see the world from anyone else's point of
view. You couldn't be bothered to engage, to acknowledge.

That is what annoys me.


And that you, acting in your usual presumptuous ignorant manner, take to mean that I am insecure
in MY position... When you are so insecure you can't bring yourself to even think about other viewpoints...

THAT is what pisses me off.

In Scientific Exploration, objective scientists actually welcome being proven wrong so that their search for absolute reality may continue less encumbered with faulty premises and unsupported conclusions. Even Albert Einstein eventually realized that the end of all scientific tunnels is either falsity or a leap of faith. Why do most atheists refuse to accept the possibility that their summary dismissals may be wrong? Why wouldn't all honest atheists welcome the possibility that God exists?

"Why do most atheists refuse to accept the possibility that their summary dismissals may be wrong?"

I do not accept the premise of the question.
You have not shown that most atheists do refuse to accept the possibility of being wrong.
I do not refuse to accept the possibility of my being wrong.

"Why wouldn't all honest atheists welcome the possibility that God exists?"

WHICH GOD/S???

Why can't you comprehend that atheism is a lack of belief in any gods, not a rejection of the one
singular Christian god.

Are you that incapable of seeing anyone else's point of view?


THINK. For once in your life. THINK.

Originally posted by googlefudge

Thank you. I'm learning that atheists are often uncomfortable with the posture they assume;
and that anger over threats to status betrays an underlying discontent and searching soul.

Then you are learning yet more falsehoods.


I am not even remotely uncomfortable with my position.

And you pose precisely zero threat my status... ...[text shortened]... that incapable of seeing anyone else's point of view?


THINK. For once in your life. THINK.

Originally posted by googlefudge

I am not even remotely uncomfortable with my position.

THAT is what pisses me off.

WHICH GOD/S???

THINK. For once in your life. THINK.


Unfortunately, conversation's impossible whenever one party is on an emotional rant and attack mode engaged.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Originally posted by googlefudge

[b]I am not even remotely uncomfortable with my position.

THAT is what pisses me off.

WHICH GOD/S???

THINK. For once in your life. THINK.


Unfortunately, conversation's impossible whenever one party is on an emotional rant and attack mode engaged.[/b]

No it isn't.

Conversation is impossible when one side [that would be you] doesn't listen to
what the other is saying and doesn't engage.

Conversation doesn't become impossible simply when one [or more] participants
gets heated.

The problem here is not me. It's you.

You can have a conversation with me any time you choose.

The requisite is YOU actually turning up, ready to think and actually read and consider
other peoples posts.


You can't claim the high ground. You don't have any.

Originally posted by googlefudge
No it isn't.

Conversation is impossible when one side [that would be you] doesn't listen to
what the other is saying and doesn't engage.

Conversation doesn't become impossible simply when one [or more] participants
gets heated.

The problem here is not me. It's you.

You can have a conversation with me any time you choose.

The requisite ...[text shortened]... ad and consider
other peoples posts.


You can't claim the high ground. You don't have any.

Do you have an on topic question?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Do you have an on topic question?

Yes. Do you understand that we have answered your question once and for all?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Yes. Do you understand that we have answered your question once and for all?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)
"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV

Comments?"

Originally posted by googlefudge
Because beliefs effect decisions, decisions effect actions, actions effect others,
so what others think matters.

And you are a total and complete moron if you can't comprehend that.

Stop asking that really truly deeply idiotic question.

It's been answered a hundred times already, and the answer is obvious to anyone
with more than 2 brain cells to rub together.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Do you have an on topic question?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Yes. Do you understand that we have answered your question once and for all?

Yes, "beliefs effect decisions, decisions effect actions, actions effect others..." makes sense as a generic answer; I'm unclear, though, as to how people putting their faith in God conflicts with or contravenes the freedoms of those who reject Him.

Originally posted by googlefudge
"Why wouldn't all honest atheists welcome the possibility that God exists?"

WHICH GOD/S???

Why can't you comprehend that atheism is a lack of belief in any gods, not a rejection of the one
singular Christian god.

Are you that incapable of seeing anyone else's point of view?


THINK. For once in your life. THINK.

You're talking to a Christian. Which God do you THINK he's talking about??

It's not rocket science.

Atheists and Christians have that much in common at least. Neither group believes in any of these other "gods". Christians do not entertain that they might exist because they do not exist. Certainly you should get that part at least. The ONLY difference between Christians and Atheists is that Christians believe in the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, and His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. So let me ask you the *obvious* question. WHY are you bringing up any other "gods" that we BOTH know DO NOT EXIST?

This whole "which god(s)?" argument is asinine.

Originally posted by Suzianne
You're talking to a Christian. Which God do you THINK he's talking about??

The question was asked to an atheist by a Christian.
So it could be any god.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
The question was asked to an atheist by a Christian.
So it could be any god.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not [people] put their faith in Him?" -JV

Originally posted by wolfgang59
The question was asked to an atheist by a Christian.
So it could be any god.

"... whether or not people put their faith in Him?"

The question was asked of anyone and everyone in general; no thesis or antithesis or premise was established.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby

"... whether or not people put their faith in Him?"

The question was asked of anyone and everyone in general; no thesis or antithesis or premise was established.

people presumably includes atheists?

... so the question was aked of atheists.

... so the question of "which god" is relevant.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
[b]people presumably includes atheists?

... so the question was aked of atheists.

... so the question of "which god" is relevant.[/b]

May I ask why wolfgang59 the question:

"If God didn't exist, what possible difference would it make whether or not people put their faith in Him?" -JV