Originally posted by galveston75I doubt if there are any two people in the world that agrees with each
Does anyone here or in your religion you belong too completely agree with your opinions?
other on everything. If you search hard enough, I think you will find
some point on which there is a disagreement.
Originally posted by RJHindsAccording to the Bible it would happen.
I doubt if there are any two people in the world that agrees with each
other on everything. If you search hard enough, I think you will find
some point on which there is a disagreement.
1 Corinthians 1:10
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
10 And I call upon you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that the same thing ye may all say, and there may not be divisions among you, and ye may be perfected in the same mind, and in the same judgment,
The point I'm making here is we can all have opinions but as the itself Bible says, it is not open for "privite interpretation". Correct?
So if we as humans are not allowed to have our own private interpretation, then we have to be a part of some group that is in full agreement on what the Bible says. Correct?
Did Jesus not say himself that this "complete agreement" would be the sign of his true followers and the ones that he would accept? Correct? Wouldn't that make sense? Would he approve of ones that are not agreeing and in constant disagreement with his teachings among themselves?
I can promise you completely that not only do I and Robbie completly agree on everything spiritual but we both completely agree with the other 8 million Witnesses on this planet.
I don't care when or where ever you would go on this planet and ask any Witness any biblical question you could come up with, you would get the same answer and they would show you this answer from the Bible by scripture.
You probably may call this brainwashing?????? But your wrong. It is the unity that Jesus and the Bible is speaking of. It's the only way Jesus's followers could possibly be according to him.
Originally posted by galveston75There are also many Christians that are in complete agreement on the
According to the Bible it would happen.
1 Corinthians 1:10
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
10 And I call upon you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that the same thing ye may all say, and there may not be divisions among you, and ye may be perfected in the same mind, and in the same judgment,
The point I'm making he ...[text shortened]... s speaking of. It's the only way Jesus's followers could possibly be according to him.
Deity of Christ and Triunity of God and believe in baptism in the name
of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Those apparently are not private
interpretations.
However the Jehovah's Witnesses were begun by Charles Taze Russel.
In 1879 he sought to popularize his aberrant ideas on doctrine. He
co-published The Herald of the Morning magazine with its founder, N. H.
Barbour and by 1884 Russell controlled the publication and renamed it
The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom, and founded Zion's
Watch Tower Tract Society (now known as the Watch Tower Bible and
Tract Society). Russell claimed that the Bible could be only understood
according to his interpretations. Sounds like private interpretation to me.
Originally posted by RJHindsFirst your wrong. Why do you think that every minute in every neighborhood in every city some new community church pops up? No one can agree in the so called established churches on what to believe.
There are also many Christians that are in complete agreement on the
Deity of Christ and Triunity of God and believe in baptism in the name
of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Those apparently are not private
interpretations.
However the Jehovah's Witnesses were begun by Charles Taze Russel.
In 1879 he sought to popularize his aberrant ideas on do ...[text shortened]... only understood
according to his interpretations. Sounds like private interpretation to me.
And then they splinter and go start some newer church. It's been happening for ever.
The Witnesses have never done that..ever.
And Russel did not start the Witnesses just on his own. There was a group of mostly strangers that were all fed up with their churches and could see the falseness of such teachings as the trinity. They wanted the real truth of the Bible and were all willing to find it no matter what reprocussions happened from their old churches or families or work or governments.
Once they decided this then the parables of the "talents" and of the "ten virgins" began. But if you don't understand those parables then this would not make no sense to you either.
Originally posted by galveston75Do you agree with this Wikipedia article then?
First your wrong. Why do you think that every minute in every neighborhood in every city some new community church pops up? No one can agree in the so called established churches on what to believe.
And then they splinter and go start some newer church. It's been happening for ever.
The Witnesses have never done that..ever.
And Russel did not sta ...[text shortened]... ut if you don't understand those parables then this would not make no sense to you either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell
Originally posted by RJHindsthe watchtower bible and tract society is a legal corporation, not a magazine, sigh.
There are also many Christians that are in complete agreement on the
Deity of Christ and Triunity of God and believe in baptism in the name
of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Those apparently are not private
interpretations.
However the Jehovah's Witnesses were begun by Charles Taze Russel.
In 1879 he sought to popularize his aberrant ideas on do ...[text shortened]... only understood
according to his interpretations. Sounds like private interpretation to me.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI said the name of the Magazine was The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's
the watchtower bible and tract society is a legal corporation, not a magazine, sigh.
Kingdom and he founded Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society (now known as
the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society).
Originally posted by RJHinds
We have gone over this before and even referred you to a website.
He calls Himself "Almighty" in His Revelation to John.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His
bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent
and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, who
testified to the word of God and to ...[text shortened]... he descendant of David, the bright
morning star.”
(Revelation 1:1-8, 17-18; 22:12-13, 16)
BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see
Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will
mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and
who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed
His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and
the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive
forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.
“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render
to every man according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and
the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the
churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright
morning star.”
Amen. And Amen.