-Removed-No sin can outdo what has been done.
When the Christ worked on the Cross, He worked to balance the scale of all sin.
When the Christ died, He died having completing the work.
God is not surprised by sin.
Nothing can be added to the balance of sin, no matter how much man trespasses from that point forward, until man can act no more.
All done, all paid.
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-Removed-Then you may find confirmation of this at:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14326b.htm
Where suicide is generally considered a grave violation of duty to God, but:
"God being the master of our life He may with His own consent remove from suicide whatever constitutes its disorder."
and
"Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide."
Originally posted by FreakyKBHHere we go again. .. the licence to sin principle.
No sin can outdo what has been done.
When the Christ worked on the Cross, He worked to balance the scale of all sin.
When the Christ died, He died having completing the work.
God is not surprised by sin.
Nothing can be added to the balance of sin, no matter how much man trespasses from that point forward, until man can act no more.
All done, all paid.
Very nice.
Originally posted by Rajk999Dive is conducting a poll, of sorts. I reported one (RCC) view. A mere collection of the already-voiced views is not a 'here we go again' moment except for the easily seduced. We needn't have our guns on the table for every deal.
Nope. The 'here we go again' means here we go again Christians claiming the right to sin without consequence while the rest of the world cannot do that.
Suicide apparently is therefore a dire sin except for Christians.
Originally posted by JS357Apparently you missed the Christian who posted the "getaway with sin free" doctrine and Divegeester wholeheartedly agreed. So everyone else pays for their sin of suicide except them.
Dive is conducting a poll, of sorts. I reported one (RCC) view. A mere collection of the already-voiced views is not a 'here we go again' moment except for the easily seduced. We needn't have our guns on the table for every deal.
-Removed-For a view from an agnostic. I'd have thought it depended on the reason for the suicide. Guy Fawkes was drawn and quartered, but he jumped from the scaffold with the noose about his neck and so broke his own neck which prevented him from being overly inconvenienced by the forthcoming procedure. This is technically a suicide, but under the circumstances I don't doubt anyone would regard it as a sin. I think the sin is to give up all hope. If the hope one has surrendered is only for one's own condition in this world, but not for everyone else and not for the next then it can hardly be called a sin.
Originally posted by DeepThoughtI think Christians who speak of suicide as if it is a grave sin really do not know the Bible. I would be very surprised if there is any clear statement about it. Those CHristians would be equally surprised if they knew that there is a case of God assisted suicide and it was not a sin.
For a view from an agnostic. I'd have thought it depended on the reason for the suicide. Guy Fawkes was drawn and quartered, but he jumped from the scaffold with the noose about his neck and so broke his own neck which prevented him from being overly inconvenienced by the forthcoming procedure. This is technically a suicide, but under the circumstance ...[text shortened]... n this world, but not for everyone else and not for the next then it can hardly be called a sin.
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-Removed-Freaky posted his Christian 'getaway with sin' doctrine:
No sin can outdo what has been done.
When the Christ worked on the Cross, He worked to balance the scale of all sin.
When the Christ died, He died having completing the work.
God is not surprised by sin.
Nothing can be added to the balance of sin, no matter how much man trespasses from that point forward, until man can act no more.
All done, all paid.
And you agreed:
[i]From my POV I would say well put.[i]
What did I say that is wrong?