1. Standard memberapathist
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    ... and make a mark. Ya'll doing that. Carry on.
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    08 Jan '17 11:58
    Originally posted by apathist
    ... and make a mark. Ya'll doing that. Carry on.
    You just posted in another thread: "Zen has great influence on me, how I understand and how I conduct."

    If your philosophy for life is indeed 'take a stand and make your mark' then I don't think you have understood Zen at all. Quite the opposite in fact.
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    08 Jan '17 12:04
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    You just posted in another thread: "Zen has great influence on me, how I understand and how I conduct."

    If your philosophy for life is indeed 'take a stand and make your mark' then I don't think you have understood Zen at all. Quite the opposite in fact.
    Perhaps he has decided to take a stand against Zen?
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    08 Jan '17 12:59
    Originally posted by FMF
    Perhaps he has decided to take a stand against Zen?
    Perhaps he's decided to take a stand as an Internet troll.
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    08 Jan '17 13:07
    Or maybe apathist's back is against the wall of confusion and he realizes he needs to take a stand on something before his reality crumbles, and all hope vanishes away into oblivion.

    Just guessing 😉.
  6. Standard memberapathist
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    08 Jan '17 19:07
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    You just posted in another thread: "Zen has great influence on me, how I understand and how I conduct."

    If your philosophy for life is indeed 'take a stand and make your mark' then I don't think you have understood Zen at all. Quite the opposite in fact.[/b]
    I have no doubt I don't understand Zen. I said so.

    Stand up for what you believe, I don't know how to boil it down further. Tell me where I misunderstand.
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    08 Jan '17 19:26
    Originally posted by apathist
    ... and make a mark. Ya'll doing that. Carry on.
    I'm going to pick up some more rubbish,lol
  8. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    08 Jan '17 19:27
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    You just posted in another thread: "Zen has great influence on me, how I understand and how I conduct."

    If your philosophy for life is indeed 'take a stand and make your mark' then I don't think you have understood Zen at all. Quite the opposite in fact.
    How so?
    You can be a Zennist and take a stand against inequalities
  9. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    08 Jan '17 19:31
    1 Zen master has 500 successfull disciples and another has just 1. Both are equal .
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    08 Jan '17 20:03
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    I'm going to pick up some more rubbish,lol
    Soy el hombre de la basura.
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    08 Jan '17 21:00
    Originally posted by apathist
    I have no doubt I don't understand Zen. I said so.

    Stand up for what you believe, I don't know how to boil it down further. Tell me where I misunderstand.
    It was more the 'making a mark.' What mark is there to make when:

    "Life is a dream, a grand illusion that we perceive through the filter of our personality, our experiences, our ego. This is a great piece of theater in which we do not see all the actors and in which we barely understand the role of those that we see."
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    Originally posted by sonship
    Perhaps he's decided to take a stand as an Internet troll.
    You mean he doesn't believe the same things as you do and has a different way of comporting himself from you?
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    09 Jan '17 07:14
    Originally posted by apathist
    ... and make a mark. Ya'll doing that. Carry on.
    How big will your mark really be if there is an eternity that you didn't recon with?
  14. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    09 Jan '17 22:19
    Originally posted by apathist
    Soy el hombre de la basura.
    Is that Spanish? Us Australians are notorious for not knowing many languages. I do speak Hungarian but I've been in Australia since I was 6...
  15. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    09 Jan '17 22:231 edit
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    It was more the 'making a mark.' What mark is there to make when:

    "Life is a dream, a grand illusion that we perceive through the filter of our personality, our experiences, our ego. This is a great piece of theater in which we do not see all the actors and in which we barely understand the role of those that we see."
    Yes now we enter into the areas of human understanding where words fall short.
    Zen masters have said many times that poetry and art can be a more accurate description of reality than some sort of thesis.
    Also it depends on where you're at with it.

    If one was not understanding of the way of zen masters then one may say they are total idiots. In fact the impression I get is that they were loved and loathed in equal measure.

    edit:oops I just realized you were realized you were responding to apathist. My apologies
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