Originally posted by vistesd
NRS Psalm 137:9 “Happy shall they be who take your little ones [in the Hebrew literally: infants, or suckling children] and dash them against the rock!”
Do you take these words from the Psalmist as being inspired by the Holy Spirit?
[b]The same God who shows the faithful 'unfailing love' also 'wipes out completely' His enemies.
Again, these “e tionally.[/b]
It is heretical to teach that he must, not to believe that he will.[/b]
"NRS Psalm 137:9 “Happy shall they be who take your little ones [in the Hebrew literally: infants, or suckling children] and dash them against the rock!”
Do you take these words from the Psalmist as being inspired by the Holy Spirit?"
--Definitely. If God deems the Babylon of which David speaks to be worthy of absolute destruction, then it does. I trust God's judgement. Obviously you underestimate God's hatred for sin. His anger burns against it. David's zealous expression of hatred for the wickedness of others is a reflection of the Lord's. How can you claim to know the Lord if you can't see that He is holy and righteous, and that He exercises judgement? God kills. If that offends you, then you haven't grasped the reality of God's holiness, nor do you share His hatred for sin as you should (as David does).
The same God who shows the faithful 'unfailing love' also 'wipes out completely' His enemies.
Again, these “enemies” are in you and me; they are not whole persons—not in the NT anyway.
"Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt" (Danial 12:2).
--Speaking of judgement day, when the dead shall rise and be judged. Notice Danial speaks of whole persons, not parts of persons as you falsely claim, who are either cast into hell or received into heaven.
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28).
--God's judgement is final. People are only able to kill our bodies, not our whole person; while God's judgement destroys both soul and body in hell.
"Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons" (Matthew 25:41).
--You would have us believe that when Christ says, "Away with you, you cursed ones," He's only referring to say, a few toes and few fingers, and not the whole person. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. God judges the whole person, not parts of a person, otherwise He would not have commanded elsewhere that our 'eye be single' (Luke 11:34).
"Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 'Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out" (Luke 13:23-28).
--How explicit does this need to be for you to let go of your false presumption about God's judgement? Not everyone goes to heaven; many end up in hell. You're doing God no favors by obscuring the gospel of His Son, Jesus Christ, or sugar-coating His eternal judgement, which all men and women should rightly fear. Messing with the word of God is also a dangerous business, as Revelation 22:18-19 attests:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Why do you call that a “condition,“ rather than a promise, or simply a statement of purpose? EDIT: You see, that is your hermeneutics...
You still haven’t addressed the fact that soterias, “salvation,” means cure or healing, rather than pardon from judgment.
"I tell you the truth, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have
already passed from death into life" (John 5:24, italics mine).
--Condition or promise, call it what you will. It is both. And as this passage in John shows, those who listen to Christ's message and believe in Him have eternal life
already. Again, how plain does God have to be for you to take Him at His word?
It is heretical to teach that God saves everyone, unconditionally.
It is heretical to teach that he must, not to believe that he will.
--God is not confined by His own law; His law is an expression of Himself, of His holiness and righteousness. It is an expression of Himself, not a limit upon His love. As John 3:16 shows, His love is expressed in that Christ died for us in order to satisfy God's Law. Christ did not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it. Therefore, if we remain sinners without believing in Jesus Christ, then we are still under the Law and under God's judgement. That you believe God will save sinners who don't obey His plan for salvation, shows that you don't really take God's word very seriously at all.
---May the Spirit of God open your eyes...