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Originally posted by SuzianneYou guess wrong.
I guess by your definition, then, all Christians ARE "fundamentalists".
Hope this helps
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Originally posted by AgergMy dear Agerg, is this thread about your well justified concern about a stereotype of an atheist, which you rightfully reject or an attempt on your part to build up an obnoxious stereotype of a theist, which you describe as " fundy or fundamentalist christians or fundamentalist followers of other religions " ? By definition, a theist is a believer in a God or Gods. He/she may or may not follow any religion, he/she may be or may not be a " fundie ". True, many organised religions ( not Hinduism which is what I follow ) have been guilty of bloodshed of followers of other religions, Hinduism was guilty of the condemnable practice of casteism, yet we must not build up a stereotype of a theist based on the malpractices of this or that religion.
Take all the fundy Christians in this forum along with people like rvsakhadeo (who may or may not be a fundamentalist in whatever religion he follows), take the union of all their stereotypes of atheists and I'm sure the set of traits I listed in the OP is a proper subset of that union.
My purpose was to tease out some reasoning (if such extends beyond what ...[text shortened]... hadeo was generous enough to provide his rationale I responded in kind with a lengthy response.
Originally posted by Agergso you post a hateful characterization of atheists that no decent person would make, you admit the fundies would say something like that then ask theists (which include myself) and rvsakhadeo in particular (who has proven open and very unlike the nutjob dasa) to comment?
Take all the fundy Christians in this forum along with people like rvsakhadeo (who may or may not be a fundamentalist in whatever religion he follows), take the union of all their stereotypes of atheists and I'm sure the set of traits I listed in the OP is a proper subset of that union.
My purpose was to tease out some reasoning (if such extends beyond what ...[text shortened]... hadeo was generous enough to provide his rationale I responded in kind with a lengthy response.
Originally posted by ZahlanziWell it was actually rvsakhadeo who kicked this one off by asserting (in so many words) that we atheists are emotionless automations bent upon a communist world leadership and sapping from this earth every ounce of happiness that there is.
so you post a hateful characterization of atheists that no decent person would make, you admit the fundies would say something like that then ask theists (which include myself) and rvsakhadeo in particular (who has proven open and very unlike the nutjob dasa) to comment?
don't you believe it is a bit unfair?
i shouldn't be too hard on you though, it i t's like throwing rocks at a wall) do so. but leave the other theists out of it.
Originally posted by Agergan attempt on your part to build up an obnoxious stereotype of a theist,
Well it was actually rvsakhadeo who kicked this one off by asserting (in so many words) that we atheists are emotionless automations bent upon a communist world leadership and sapping from this earth every ounce of happiness that there is.
True, I should have been more discerning and I apologise for throwing you (implicitly) into the mix here. However there ...[text shortened]... and who doesn't harbour an unfair prejudice against us non-believers (in any god or gods).
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe "stereotype" against fundies is demonstrable, and exceptions are few and far between; as for the small minority of theists on this forum that don't fall into the religious fundamentalist category, some of them are still heavily prejudiced against atheists and so should wear the same stereotype.
an attempt on your part to build up an obnoxious stereotype of a theist,
fess up Agers my son, is this true?
Originally posted by AgergMy "'poorly veiled' negative stance towards atheists in general" is only a mirror of atheists' "poorly veiled" negative stance towards believers in general.
I neither said nor even implied that *all* of you are fundamentalists. Or if I did, please demonstrate this is so.
On the other hand I find it difficult to divorce you from those of a fundamentalist mentality given what you believe about some great cataclysmic battle that will be waged between Jesus and the minions of hell (and their lackeys - presumably at ...[text shortened]... int within your lifetime, or your "poorly veiled" negative stance towards athiests in general.
Originally posted by AgergIt seems to me that you harbor an unfair prejudice against us believers.
Well it was actually rvsakhadeo who kicked this one off by asserting (in so many words) that we atheists are emotionless automations bent upon a communist world leadership and sapping from this earth every ounce of happiness that there is.
True, I should have been more discerning and I apologise for throwing you (implicitly) into the mix here. However there ...[text shortened]... and who doesn't harbour an unfair prejudice against us non-believers (in any god or gods).
Originally posted by Agergi would like a quote from him saying that. (just for my curiosity, has no relevance towards our argument).
Well it was actually rvsakhadeo who kicked this one off by asserting (in so many words) that we atheists are emotionless automations bent upon a communist world leadership and sapping from this earth every ounce of happiness that there is.
True, I should have been more discerning and I apologise for throwing you (implicitly) into the mix here. However there ...[text shortened]... and who doesn't harbour an unfair prejudice against us non-believers (in any god or gods).