Originally posted by RJHindsseems to me that one man's beast is another mans saviour - on both sides.
Well, I doubt if it is the U.S. unless it becomes an Islamic nation like Obama wants it to be. But, I guess we will have to wait awhile and see what more is revealed. We can't entirely rule that idea out since the U.S. does have a Muslim president now.
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christianity and islam have been at it for awhile now and both hold the other responsible, imho they both seem as bad as each other. I couldn't say for sure that islam is significantly more evil than christianity or vice versa.
both sides have forged and refined their propaganda and have taken great poetic license in denouncing the other. it's a great show if your not directly involved :s
Originally posted by karoly aczelExcept one thing you seem to miss in all the hub-bub is that the average Christian or the average Muslim does not follow the radical path set forth by the more fanatical, fundamentalist, rogue sects. It is a small percentage on either side causing nearly ALL the trouble.
seems to me that one man's beast is another mans saviour - on both sides.
christianity and islam have been at it for awhile now and both hold the other responsible, imho they both seem as bad as each other. I couldn't say for sure that islam is significantly more evil than christianity or vice versa.
both sides have forged and refined their propagand ...[text shortened]... t poetic license in denouncing the other. it's a great show if your not directly involved :s
Originally posted by karoly aczelWe think alike on that point. I see Yahshua (Jesus) as the Saviour and they see the Mahdi as their savior.
seems to me that one man's beast is another mans saviour - on both sides.
christianity and islam have been at it for awhile now and both hold the other responsible, imho they both seem as bad as each other. I couldn't say for sure that islam is significantly more evil than christianity or vice versa.
both sides have forged and refined their propagand ...[text shortened]... t poetic license in denouncing the other. it's a great show if your not directly involved :s
The Instructor
Originally posted by SuzianneYep, agreed.
Except one thing you seem to miss in all the hub-bub is that the average Christian or the average Muslim does not follow the radical path set forth by the more fanatical, fundamentalist, rogue sects. It is a small percentage on either side causing nearly ALL the trouble.
If you have two religions with (seemingly) opposing ideologies with a billion followers each then you need not even 0.001% to be "rouge" for there to be potentially mass carnage back and forth.
Originally posted by RJHindsI guess there's a first time for everything 🙂
We think alike on that point. I see Yahshua (Jesus) as the Saviour and they see the Mahdi as their savior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwleLyD43Hs
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6 more days til I have full internet priviliges back on, so no youtube til then ...
Originally posted by RJHindsYou are the most hate filled person I have ever had the displeasure to have known. Also one of the most duped. You need intense psychological counseling.
Well, I doubt if it is the U.S. unless it becomes an Islamic nation like Obama wants it to be. But, I guess we will have to wait awhile and see what more is revealed. We can't entirely rule that idea out since the U.S. does have a Muslim president now.
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Originally posted by sonhouseIf you had ever had the pleasure to know me then you would find out otherwise.
You are the most hate filled person I have ever had the displeasure to have known. Also one of the most duped. You need intense psychological counseling.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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Originally posted by RJHindsThe Beast from the Earth was the Roman Imperial cult that claimed Caesar was a god.
We have determined that the beast coming up out of the sea in Revelation 13 is the endtime Islamic political, military, and religious empire. However, there is a smaller portion of this empire that is pictured as a beast rising up out of the earth.
The two horns represent the two separate leaderships, but without any crowns because their is no king. Thi he dragon, also know as Satan the devil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OKmj3m5ViI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(preterism)#Preterism
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI am talking about the coming beast of the earth predicted for the endtimes in Revelation 13. The Roman Imperial cult is long gone now, so lets look to the future.
The Beast from the Earth was the Roman Imperial cult that claimed Caesar was a god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(preterism)#Preterism
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I found the following commentary on the meaning of the Earth in Revelation 13.
Now he sees another beast, this one coming out of the earth instead of the sea. Earth and sea are interchangeable in the sense that either can be regarded as the realm of death or the dead. Either can become, under certain circumstances, an "abyss," or bottomless pit (9:1-2, 12; 11:7). The two beasts, however, are not quite interchangeable. The beast from the earth, called in later visions "the false prophet" (16:13; 19:20; 20:10), is in no way a rival or a competitor of the beast from the sea, but on the contrary is strictly subordinate to the first beast. Its mission is not to exalt itself or to demand worship for itself, but solely to make sure that the earth's inhabitants worship the first beast (vv. 14-15).
http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/IVP-NT/Rev/Beast-Earth
Originally posted by RJHindsRevelation is about the end times of the Classical Era, not everything.
The Holy Bible is about the past, present, and future. Revelation is about the endtimes, which has not happened yet. That means it is about the future, numbnuts.
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Kinda like how Genesis is about the beginning of civilization, not everything.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThere may have been a partial type fulfillment of the prophecy in the past as was true of other prophecies, however, we are still awaiting the full fulfiiment, which will include the return of Christ in glory, the battle of Armageddon, the first resurrection, the bounding of Satan, the 1000 year reign of Christ, the loosing of Satan to deceive those on the earth again that will end with Satan being thrown into the lake of fire to be tormented forever, the second resurrection, the great white throne judgment, the making of a new heaven and a new earth, and the coming down of the new Jerusalem out of heaven from God.
Revelation is about the end times of the Classical Era, not everything.
Kinda like how Genesis is about the beginning of civilization, not everything.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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