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Originally posted by catfoodtimYeah, the Church, or shall I say God, says that I am a sinner as you yourself and everybody on earth is. It's a Biblical fact, but since you don't seem to accept God's word, I can't convince you. How am I a bigot by simply stating a Biblical fact. If I said I hated gays simply for being gay, then I could see where you were coming from, but I didin't say I hated gays, only that their lifestyle was against God...and that makes me a bigot? That's like me calling you a bigot because you don't like the color "red", or you don't believe the world is round...everytime we conservatives state our beliefs or philosophies and it doesn't mesh, you God-less people label us "bigots"...well, I guess I could say the same about you...you are a bigot because you don't believe that the Bible says homosexuality is wrong...but I won't stoop to your elementary level....have a nice day...😉
i cant think of any biological reason for bigots such as yourself to mate but the church doesnt label you a sinner does it?
jesus wept.
Originally posted by chancremechanicThe problem is you conservatives don't have a philosophy:
Yeah, the Church, or shall I say God, says that I am a sinner as you yourself and everybody on earth is. It's a Biblical fact, but since you don't seem to accept God's word, I can't convince you. How am I a bigot by simply stating a Biblical fact. If I said I hated gays simply for being gay, then I could see where you were coming from, but I d ...[text shortened]... ays homosexuality is wrong...but I won't stoop to your elementary level....have a nice day...😉
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhich bible verse do you base your hatred on?
Yeah, the Church, or shall I say God, says that I am a sinner as you yourself and everybody on earth is. It's a Biblical fact, but since you don't seem to accept God's word, I can't convince you. How am I a bigot by simply stating a Biblical fact. If I said I hated gays simply for being gay, then I could see where you were coming from, but I d ...[text shortened]... ays homosexuality is wrong...but I won't stoop to your elementary level....have a nice day...😉
Originally posted by XanthosNZWhat part(s) of my posts did you decipher that I said I hated anyone? See what I mean about twisting words around? Learn to read, please. You can practice by searching the Bible yourself, or get a grownup to do it for you. 😲 🙄
Which bible verse do you base your hatred on?
Originally posted by chancremechanicOK I'll admit my mistake there. I scanned your post noticed the bit where you said you hated gays and didn't read the context.
What part(s) of my posts did you decipher that I said I hated anyone? See what I mean about twisting words around? Learn to read, please. You can practice by searching the Bible yourself, or get a grownup to do it for you. 😲 🙄
Originally posted by howardgeeThe Catholic church does not promote STD's by condemning contraceptives. The church teaches that the absolute precaution to precluding the spread of AIDs is to not have sex at all. Condomns have a 1 in 20 chance of breaking hence, are not reliable when it comes to preventing life threatening diseases. The church is is opposed tp abortion because it is regarded as gratuitoius killing of life. Ever heard of adoption!
The Catholic church promotes the unnecessary spread of painful and deadly sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS by banning the use of contraceptives.
The Catholic church makes couples suffer by forcing them to have unwanted children (denying abortion).
The Catholic church victimises homosexuals by labelling them freaks, going against God's will ...[text shortened]... ithin its organisation.
Why should the Catholic church deprive the children of suffering?
Originally posted by howardgeeActually the term siners has been abolished- in most churches. Sin is an absecence of God or synonymously love. Homesexuals have the capacity to commit sin as well as actions of love. Thus, they cannot be identified as sinful
How very magnanimous of your church to see gays as sinners without actually harming them! (Sarcastic LOL).
Homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomena in the animal kingdom in general (Which God created According to you lot!).
It is not morally wrong. No innocent person gets hurt (except a few bottoms perhaps!)
At the very least your church labels homosexuals as sinners, when they are law abiding members of society.
Originally posted by catfoodtimInterestingly there are a few stipulations for repentance given throughout the entire chrsitiuan scriptures 1. to repent you must forgive the sins of all your brothers and 2. Because God knows you heart and mind, to repent one must sincerely feel sorry for their sins. This means you can't repent at the last moment, if you consciously abuse children as a priest deciding to repent later on in life you are rejecting God and mocking his law. For some one infinitely wise it think God would see through this loop hole.
it is frightening the amount of cases, you must be right - i think the position must attract a certain type of man. im sure there was a programme on about maynooth college in ireland where it turned out most of the student priests were hopping in and out of each other's beds - the hypocrisy is unbelievable.
i guess the beauty of catholicism is that y ...[text shortened]... dying priests are more likely to have the chance to make a final confession. handy that really.