02 Apr '13 02:501 editOriginally posted by ZahlanziOh ok. So you say you believe "Jesus is God's son" but yet, you reject the bible. I'm wondering how you believe "Jesus" is "God's" son, while you also reject the one authoritative source describing both parties.
yes (yes, I believe the Jews acted wholly on their own and therefore believe the bible is false)
02 Apr '13 07:50Originally posted by sumydidyes, you are right, because the bible is not a document written over hundreds of years, by numerous authors, and then even what was put into what is considered the bible was decided by the vatican. and we all know that if a part of the bible is proven to be false and i reject it, then the whole book must be false and i reject it as a whole, even if jesus' teachings depend in no way on the supposed genocides of the old testament and in fact contradict them.
Oh ok. So you say you believe "Jesus is God's son" but yet, you reject the bible. I'm wondering how you believe "Jesus" is "God's" son, while you also reject the one authoritative source describing both parties.
02 Apr '13 07:53Originally posted by sumydidi also wonder.
Oh ok. So you say you believe "Jesus is God's son" but yet, you reject the bible. I'm wondering how you believe "Jesus" is "God's" son, while you also reject the one authoritative source describing both parties.
02 Apr '13 08:171 editOriginally posted by sumydidI have always wondered, (and never got a definitive answer), if I take the current books of the Bible and add one of my own, then publish it as a single volume, does the contents of my added book suddenly become the infallible word of God?
Oh ok. So you say you believe "Jesus is God's son" but yet, you reject the bible. I'm wondering how you believe "Jesus" is "God's" son, while you also reject the one authoritative source describing both parties.
02 Apr '13 17:25Originally posted by twhiteheadWhy don't you do that experiment and see what happens? 😏
I have always wondered, (and never got a definitive answer), if I take the current books of the Bible and add one of my own, then publish it as a single volume, does the contents of my added book suddenly become the infallible word of God?
Or will I be struck down by lightening before I manage to publish it?
03 Apr '13 05:09Originally posted by ZahlanziDoes a doctor hate the body of a cancer patient when he irradiates the cancer cells?
i also wonder.
for example, i wonder how you reconcile the god who so loved the world that he sent his only son to teach it love and compassion with the god of the old testament who so loved only a small group of people that he utterly destroyed a nation so that the former could steal their homes. a god who so loved the world that he destroyed it once.
03 Apr '13 05:37Originally posted by ZahlanziIf, just possibly, you can see that this a man-made religion then it begins to make some sense.😀
i also wonder.
for example, i wonder how you reconcile the god who so loved the world that he sent his only son to teach it love and compassion with the god of the old testament who so loved only a small group of people that he utterly destroyed a nation so that the former could steal their homes. a god who so loved the world that he destroyed it once.
03 Apr '13 05:471 editOriginally posted by caissad4Haha! Just like the pope in 1939 or whenever, before WWII. He blessed both sides to cover his bets - actually so did the rest of Italy 🙂
If, just possibly, you can see that this a man-made religion then it begins to make some sense.😀
03 Apr '13 05:481 editOriginally posted by caissad4Since Christianity is completely manmade, surely there was a some point, an idea that was put forth and then a plan executed. Do you think that it was a small group of men that dreamed it all up? What sense does it make that thousands of years ago, a small group of men (and remember, people were so gullible and stupid back then they'd fall for anything) came up with an idea so utterly brilliant that thousands of years later, billions of people would still believe it so passionately? What are the odds of that, considering all the factors involved. And don't forget, whoever these men were that came up with the idea, clearly didn't benefit from it at all.
If, just possibly, you can see that this a man-made religion then it begins to make some sense.😀
03 Apr '13 05:55Originally posted by sumydidBrilliant idea ? Not ! I just finished watching a BBC documentarty called Christianity, The First Three Thousand Years. Christianity surviving is owed more to politics than anything else. 😛
Since Christianity is completely manmade, surely there was a some point, an idea that was put forth and then a plan executed. Do you think that it was a small group of men that dreamed it all up? What sense does it make that thousands of years ago, a small group of men (and remember, people were so gullible and stupid back then they'd fall for anything) ca ...[text shortened]... sands of other ideas equally brilliant and able to withstand thousands of years of scrutiny?
03 Apr '13 05:59Originally posted by caissad4Any idea would have to be exceedingly brilliant for ANY manmade, false ideology to last thousands of years with billions of people still claiming absolute belief in it.
Brilliant idea ? Not ! I just finished watching a BBC documentarty called Christianity, The First Three Thousand Years. Christianity surviving is owed more to politics than anything else. 😛
03 Apr '13 06:20Originally posted by sumydidWe humans have shown a strong tendency to grasp any available straw when it comes to answering the question "Why are we here and what is our purpose ?" Brilliant, no, fearful, yes.🙄
Any idea would have to be exceedingly brilliant for ANY manmade, false ideology to last thousands of years with billions of people still claiming absolute belief in it.
The Chosen people
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