Originally posted by josephw
The Bible clearly describes man as having a spirit, soul, and body. That is the whole man. It doesn't just say we are a living soul. The soul is who we are. Our identity. The soul gives us self consciousness. The body gives us world consciousness. Our spirit gives us God consciousness.
But don't worry about it. I was a Christian for over 20 years before I began to learn and understand this truth.
oh dont worry about it, i have yet to meet a nominal Christian who knows what he is talking about. You are no exception. Adam was not given a soul, he became a soul, after god infused the breath of life into him. Let me tell you in five minutes what it has taken you twenty years not to understand.
In the Bible, “soul” is translated from the Hebrew nephesh and the Greek psykhe. Bible usage shows the soul to be a person or an animal or the life that a person or an animal enjoys. It is not the same as spirit, and it is mortal.
Gen. 2:7: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul
.” (Notice that this does not say that man was given a soul but that he became a soul, a living person.) (The part of the Hebrew word here rendered “soul” is nephesh. KJ, AS, and Dy agree with that rendering. RS, JB, NAB read “being.” NE says “creature.” Kx reads “person.&rdquo
1 Cor. 15:45: “It is even so written: ‘The first man Adam became a living soul
.’ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (So the Christian Greek Scriptures agree with the Hebrew Scriptures as to what the soul is.) (The Greek word here translated “soul” is the accusative case of psykhe. KJ, AS, Dy, JB, NAB, and Kx also read “soul.” RS, NE, and TEV say “being.&rdquo
1 Pet. 3:20: “In Noah’s days . . . a few people, that is, eight souls
, were carried safely through the water.” (The Greek word here translated “souls” is psykhai, the plural form of psykhe. KJ, AS, Dy, and Kx also read “souls.” JB and TEV say “people”; RS, NE, and NAB use “persons.&rdquo
Gen. 9:5: “Besides that, your blood of your souls
[or, “lives”; Hebrew, from nephesh] shall I ask back.” (Here the soul is said to have blood.)
Josh. 11:11: “They went striking every soul
[Hebrew, nephesh] that was in it with the edge of the sword.” (The soul is here shown to be something that can be touched by the sword, so these souls could not have been spirits.)
Gen. 1:20, 21, 24, 25: “God went on to say: ‘Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls
* . . . ’ And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and [/b]every living soul[/b] that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. . . . And God went on to say: ‘Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds . . . ’ And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind.” (*In Hebrew the word here is nephesh. Ro reads “soul.” Some translations use the rendering “creatures.&rdquo
Lev. 24:17, 18: “In case a man strikes any soul
[Hebrew, nephesh] of mankind fatally, he should be put to death without fail. And the fatal striker of the soul [Hebrew, nephesh] of a domestic animal should make compensation for it, soul for soul.” (Notice that the same Hebrew word for soul is applied to both mankind and animals.)
Rev. 16:3: “It became blood as of a dead man, and every living soul died
, yes, the things in the sea.” (Thus the Christian Greek Scriptures also show animals to be souls.) (In Greek the word here is psykhe. KJ, AS, and Dy render it “soul.” Some translators use the term “creature” or “thing.&rdquo
so unless our identity can be struck with a sword, is an animal, is a fish, survived the great flood, had the breath of life infused into it, is mortal, carries blood etc etc you have some explaining to do. On the cited scriptures if you please.