"The darkness and emptiness in the heart!"

We all killed Jesus.
Jews, Romans, we all are really the killers of Jesus.

Originally posted by @sonship
We all killed Jesus.
Jews, Romans, we all are really the killers of Jesus.

Yes, because He died for our sins and no one is without sin

Originally posted by @sonship

If annihilationism were correct and people who chose to reject Christ simply ceased to exist upon physical death, why would God come to earth in bodily form and suffer torture and crucifixion to save His creation?

I am going to start a thread taking up Christ's death.
My point will be to try to explain that it was more than a mere human martyrdom.

Again ? Do you feel ignored?

Originally posted by @sonship
I''ll tell you what. You're certainly a reasonably happy go lucky dude. And I wish you a super creative life. But you're wrong about Jesus. And you never presented anything better than Jesus as far as the scores archived thread pages I can see.

Thanks. But you're mistaken if you think I have to be in competition with you in some way. There is no onus on me to present you with a set of superstitions with which you replace your current ones.

Originally posted by @sonship
But you know I have to believe that the Bible doesn't lie. The wicked are like the waves tossed about in the sea. There is no peace for the wicked.

This is the question. Is it a healthy thing for you ~ psychologically, intellectually, interpersonally ~ to be on a message board - where there are people with all manner of beliefs - and you are calling some of them "wicked" for having different religious beliefs? It seems an odd bit of interpersonal dysfunction that you are driven to engage in. You play chess here, and... you denounce people as "wicked". Do you ever think it's odd?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Your post prompted me to recall a thought I had the other day about why an eternity in hell for those who reject Christ - instead of annihilationism - may well be correct.

If annihilationism were correct and people who chose to reject Christ simply ceased to exist upon physical death, why would God come to earth in bodily form and suffer torture and c ...[text shortened]... nipotent God subject Himself to torture and one of the most, if not the most, painful of deaths?

Simple. To bring those humans to him, and so that no sheep may be lost. This is what good shepherds do.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Simple. To bring those humans to him, and so that no sheep may be lost. This is what good shepherds do.

That’s a great answer.

Originally posted by @FMF

FMF: But if it is something that is merely fending off the supposed "darkness and emptiness in the heart" without which one feels one cannot "know what one's human life is", is it such a healthy thing after all?

Originally posted by @sonship
"Merely fending off" is your presupposition.
knowing God has that by-product, yes.
But that is not the end all and be all of being a Christian.
Healthier aspects to being in fellowship with God. That does not make the "fending off emptiness and darkness" unhealthy. It just makes it not necessarily the most important thing.

The point is this. I have never used this message board to talk about stuff like the "emptiness and darkness" in your heart or claim that you cannot "know what your human life is". And yet your reaction to something I said - something true - to another poster is for you to say such things to me.

Two things come to mind: the reason you are saying it is because you think your belief in Jesus gives you licence to denounce other human beings at a core level - about another's "heart", their lives, and about their basic human attributes. Remember, although we may have debated the coherence of your ideology etc., I have never said anything even remotely as visceral and as bitterly personalized as this to you in 10+ years.

The second is the rather obvious point that the way you behave - and saying things like what's quoted in the OP specifically - suggests that all that stands between you and the "darkness and emptiness in the heart" [that you seek to project onto me] and you losing the ability to "know what human life is" [like what you seek to project onto me] is your religion.

One or the other, or both, whichever one dices it, this hardly seems healthy. Do you think it is?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Simple. To bring those humans to him, and so that no sheep may be lost. This is what good shepherds do.

I'm here and you will not listen , so you just spew words . A hypocrite you are . Your move btw I'm a wolf

Originally posted by @romans1009
That’s a great answer.

Why?

Originally posted by @sonship
We all killed Jesus.
Jews, Romans, we all are really the killers of Jesus.

Actually, I wasn't around at the time.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Why?

Do you really care?

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
I'm here and you will not listen , so you just spew words . A hypocrite you are . Your move btw I'm a wolf

Good luck going against the Shepherd. You’ve got enough trouble keeping your Head Troll candidacy on track.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Simple. To bring those humans to him, and so that no sheep may be lost. This is what good shepherds do.

What about wolves like me?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Do you really care?

Yes and no. I see you as a time waster yet I foolishly try to meet you halfway