Originally posted by @rajk999You have the same set of blinders on as several other people here!
Jesus said those who do good works and live righterously will enter the Kingdom of God. Those who do not [the goats], will miss his grace and salvation and be cast out
Jesus said if you want eternal life, follow the commandments. Those who do not follow the commandments will miss his grace and salvation.
As for eternal torment, I cannot remember seeing any such thing in His teachings.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayAre you doubting that Jesus said those things?. It would appear you dont really believe Jesus Christ. You believe that Jesus Chrsit existed. You dont really believe in his core teachings. You practice mouth worship.
You have the same set of blinders on as several other people here!
Mouth worship says I believe in Jesus
True faith says I believe in the teachings of Christ, and I will follow them.
Originally posted by @rajk999Except I was asking what Jesus said about those that miss out of God’s Kingdom. Not avoiding Jesus’.word, asking if you and a few others read all Jesus had to say on those who miss His grace and mercy,
Are you doubting that Jesus said those things?. It would appear you dont really believe Jesus Christ. You believe that Jesus Chrsit existed. You dont really believe in his core teachings. You practice mouth worship.
Mouth worship says I believe in Jesus
True faith says I believe in the teachings of Christ, and I will follow them.
Originally posted by @kellyjayI answered and repeated what Jesus said about those who miss out on Gods Kingdom.
Except I was asking what Jesus said about those that miss out of God’s Kingdom. Not avoiding Jesus’.word, asking if you and a few others read all Jesus had to say on those who miss His grace and mercy,
If I left out something then say what it is instead of babbling and beating around the bush.
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-Removed-words are important for understanding things correctly .
"God " is the spirit of the Lord expressed in actions. It is a belief system for alligning oneself to Divine will.
You Are God. You do have God-given power which reflects the nature of the universe.
It is a falsehood to say that we dont have god-like powers. Remember the Lord is not a manipulator, but is also not to be trifled with.
Separating man from their god -like nature is the best trick ever played on mankind.
Now we just wait to die and hope we did alright in the eyes of whoever we gave that power to so we may be saved.
We have the power to judge, forgive, create/destroy, judge, bless etc. just like Jesus. As long as it is alligned with the will of the Lord all things can be achieved. Nothing is impossible for the Lord.
Now I realize this all sounds a bit fantastic and fanciful but it is the single most important teaching that has made me finally understand the bible.
It is true that the spirit of jc can be expressed otherwise . Rajk does a good job. He's good because he sticks to what he knows works for him. I do the same.
So I guess 'God of Heaven' refers to the LordGod or the 'supreme godhead' whereas 'God ' is used to express our own Divinity , even if there is a lag in this dimension with results .