Originally posted by AgergI've answered this question before in a separate thread. Once man reaches a point of self-consciousness and/or se;f-awareness, history shows that his awareness of the supernatrual follows.
Error! The default position of man is no more to believe in some supernatural god/gods than it is the default position of man to wear clothes!!! The belief in magic friends is imposed upon man by society. What supernatural entity does a 3 month old baby believe in???
Originally posted by FreakyKBHIts funny how when man develops both throughout history and on an individual level his belief in the supernatural diminishes and he becomes more reasonable..... Kid will believe a lot of things, try telling half them to a mature adult and they'll laugh at you. The only reason religion is pervasive is because it got very established very early on in mans development.
I've answered this question before in a separate thread. Once man reaches a point of self-consciousness and/or se;f-awareness, history shows that his awareness of the supernatrual follows.
Why is the number of doubting religious, agnostic's and atheists steadily increasing as we develop?
Originally posted by MexicoThis post makes no sense and neither relates to the statements made or to reality.
Its funny how when man develops both throughout history and on an individual level his belief in the supernatural diminishes and he becomes more reasonable..... Kid will believe a lot of things, try telling half them to a mature adult and they'll laugh at you. The only reason religion is pervasive is because it got very established very early on in mans devel ...[text shortened]... s the number of doubting religious, agnostic's and atheists steadily increasing as we develop?
Originally posted by PsychoPawnMan's history from first recordings show him to be conscious of the other. Although man also shows varying degrees of religiousity, there has not been even one civilzation in the annals of history wherein the populace was not overwhelmingly aware of God/gods.
It makes a lot of sense and seems to relate to reality pretty well.
In what way do you think it does not makes sense or relate to reality?
Are there pockets of disbelief? Yes--- but always learned, never as a first instinct.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe fact that throughout human civilization humans have believed in some kind of god doesn't prove by any stretch that they believe in god when they are born.
Man's history from first recordings show him to be conscious of the other. Although man also shows varying degrees of religiousity, there has not been even one civilzation in the annals of history wherein the populace was not overwhelmingly aware of God/gods.
Are there pockets of disbelief? Yes--- but always learned, never as a first instinct.
There is also no actual evidence that humans have been "aware" of god(s) outside of the assumption that god actually exists.
You haven't established any actual evidence that there is a first instinct of theism.
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Originally posted by PsychoPawnAgreed.
The fact that throughout human civilization humans have believed in some kind of god doesn't prove by any stretch that they believe in god when they are born.
There is also no actual evidence that humans have been "aware" of god(s) outside of the assumption that god actually exists.
You haven't established any actual evidence that there is a [b]first instinct of theism.[/b]
People try to find to each effect a cause. When they can't explain it, they attribute the cause to the divine or supernatural.
The important and innate thing for men is to get an explanation. It doesn't matter if the explanation doesn't make sense.
And that's how religions were born: the need to get an explanation for things.
But now science can handle it quite well, so no religions are needed.
Then are those who are afraid to be alone, or need to be something more, or are afraid of death, or need a purpose in life... To them: get a pet. It's a lot healthier and you're actually being useful by helping a little animal have a home.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnIf you aren't going to keep up with your end of the conversation and at least read what is being written, I can't imagine how you expect us to get very far.
The fact that throughout human civilization humans have believed in some kind of god doesn't prove by any stretch that they believe in god when they are born.
There is also no actual evidence that humans have been "aware" of god(s) outside of the assumption that god actually exists.
You haven't established any actual evidence that there is a [b]first instinct of theism.[/b]
I haven't asserted anything about a person's belief at the moment of birth. I have asserted a fact that even the slightest exposure to history will attest to, namely, that man, by nature, has an awareness of "the other."
Originally posted by FreakyKBHWho cares about the populace of civilizations which existed thousands of years ago???
Man's history from first recordings show him to be conscious of the other. Although man also shows varying degrees of religiousity, there has not been even one civilzation in the annals of history wherein the populace was not overwhelmingly aware of God/gods.
Are there pockets of disbelief? Yes--- but always learned, never as a first instinct.
Tell me, would you care to use their system of agriculture, or be tried for murder under their laws? Would you use their military techniques to fight a modern army?
What I've been describing above isn't even representative of the "populace," but represents the pinnacle of those societies collectively, and while they were amazing accomplishments at the time that is exactly what they are: amazing accomplishments THEN only.
Why would you use as your standard a time where the average person in the "populace" was illiterate, and where religious authorities had no problem with the institution of slavery?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHIf you aren't going to say anything nice, don't say anything at all 😉 I also don't really care how far we get all that much.
If you aren't going to keep up with your end of the conversation and at least read what is being written, I can't imagine how you expect us to get very far.
I haven't asserted anything about a person's belief at the moment of birth. I have asserted a fact that even the slightest exposure to history will attest to, namely, that man, by nature, has an awareness of "the other."
In any case, can you explain what you mean by man, by "nature" having an awareness of "The other"?
Also, define how this awareness has manifested itself through history?
I'm basically asking you to support your claim with verifiable evidence.