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Spirituality

  1. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    16 Apr '18 23:02
    Some geological event let the mediterranean (fed by the atlantic) drain into the black sea, flooding villages. A myth was born.
  2. Standard member Romans1009
    Retire tiger?
    17 Apr '18 00:59
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Some geological event let the mediterranean (fed by the atlantic) drain into the black sea, flooding villages. A myth was born.
    When did that geological event take place?
  3. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    17 Apr '18 09:39
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Some geological event let the mediterranean (fed by the atlantic) drain into the black sea, flooding villages. A myth was born.
    Although the Black Sea deluge predates all known flood mythologies it is unlikely that
    such an event around the Black Sea would have inspired Mesopotamian myths.
  4. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    17 Apr '18 09:41
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    When did that geological event take place?
    Google and Wikipedia and your local library are all excellent sources of reference.
    (Requires more thought than reading the bible but is more rewarding.)
  5. Subscriber sonship
    the corrected one.
    17 Apr '18 12:46
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Google and Wikipedia and your local library are all excellent sources of reference.
    (Requires more thought than reading the bible but is more rewarding.)
    Why is it more rewarding? Do you think it prepares you for what is coming upon this world?

    You're on the Titanic.
  6. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    17 Apr '18 14:34
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Although the Black Sea deluge predates all known flood mythologies it is unlikely that
    such an event around the Black Sea would have inspired Mesopotamian myths.
    Why do you think that? All three points.
  7. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    17 Apr '18 14:36
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    When did that geological event take place?
    I don't know. How would you answer your question?
  8. 17 Apr '18 15:52
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Some geological event let the mediterranean (fed by the atlantic) drain into the black sea, flooding villages. A myth was born.
    And no amount of information to the contrary will change your mind.

    End of thread!
  9. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    17 Apr '18 16:24
    Originally posted by @secondson
    And no amount of information to the contrary will change your mind.

    End of thread!
    Actually, the thing that ends the thread is the complete lack of evidence that a global flood has ever occurred. I'm sure, to ancient civilizations, local floods may have seemed global, but that doesn't make them so.
  10. 17 Apr '18 17:13 / 1 edit
    Here’s a bibliography on myths,how and why they grow, with some specific examples. The myths that originated in prehistoric times are especially malleable, there being no written record to slow down embellishment.

    http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/historians-craft/historical-myth-and-memory/
  11. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    17 Apr '18 17:30
    Originally posted by @js357
    Here’s a bibliography on myths,how and why they grow, with some specific examples. The myths that originated in prehistoric times are especially malleable, there being no written record to slow down embellishment.

    http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/historians-craft/historical-myth-and-memory/
    They will just say "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up, you are full of shyte, the WORLD WIDE FLOOD was real"
  12. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    17 Apr '18 18:16
    Originally posted by @secondson
    And no amount of information to the contrary will change your mind.
    You just pissed me off. Did you offer information to the contrary? No you didn't. Do I have a history of not changing my mind when I meet new information? No, I don't.

    secondson is full of shiit.
  13. 17 Apr '18 20:32
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Actually, the thing that ends the thread is the complete lack of evidence that a global flood has ever occurred. I'm sure, to ancient civilizations, local floods may have seemed global, but that doesn't make them so.
    I'm glad you said that because I will now make an attempt to refute your assertion.

    It all depends on who you talk to. There are scientists that say there is a great deal of evidence for a global deluge, and have some convincing arguments and scientific evidence that proves there was.

    But that's not really what I want to say, except to say it all depends on who you talk to.

    This question; who in the world is the unquestionable authority on anything? Who in the world has produced infallible evidence that proves there are aliens, ghosts, spirits, unicorns, gods, life after death and so many other things?

    No God, no authority, no truth. Just endless debate until our ultimate demise. Too confounding there's no Truth. It must be false.
  14. 17 Apr '18 20:51
    Originally posted by @apathist
    You just pissed me off. Did you offer information to the contrary? No you didn't. Do I have a history of not changing my mind when I meet new information? No, I don't.

    secondson is full of shiit.
    Jeez man!

    I didn't mean it that seriously, but you did say a myth was born, which infers your mind is made up. Of course you'll say you have an open mind and would change your belief if convincing evidence was produced.

    No you wouldn't.

    Have a hissy fit.
  15. 17 Apr '18 21:34
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Jeez man!

    I didn't mean it that seriously, but you did say a myth was born, which infers your mind is made up. Of course you'll say you have an open mind and would change your belief if convincing evidence was produced.

    No you wouldn't.

    Have a hissy fit.
    The truth of the global deluge won’t be established by words on a chess site forum.

    Questions:

    How will it be established? (It won’t be, the two ideas are in different realms of thought.)

    How did you come by your belief on the matter? (I believe it is more important as a myth than a historical fact, and I came to this belief by reading sources in both mythology and science.)

    How is belief on the matter important? (It’s important to be well grounded in both humanity’s foundational mythology and its science, and not to pit one against the other.)

    These aren’t just questions for you, they are for whoever. (My current answers in parentheses.)