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    11 Mar '05 11:45
    Originally posted by Maustrauser
    Thought you might say that.

    Funny how you fundamentalist christians are delighted when others die. You seem to think it vindicates your view of the world. So why do so many Christian charities bother to help the poor, when it would be more efficient to let the poor sods die? They do it, because most liberal Christians believe that life is sacred an ...[text shortened]... ies now as they will go to heaven "- as Darfius likes to say with regard to Medianite children.
    Funny how you fundamentalist christians are delighted when others die.
    I think that is a figment of your imagination.
  2. Standard memberNemesio
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    11 Mar '05 14:42
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b] and it long post-dated it. And Christianity was used as a defense for it.

    You mean you are using Christianity as a defence for it.... [/b]
    No. I mean, between the time of that letter to the present day,
    people have taken that Scripture to mean slavery is permissible.

    That is, while some people have used Christianity to oppose slavery,
    others used it to justify it.

    If you think that people haven't used Christianity to justify slavery
    (and succeeded), then your knowledge of Christian history is so
    suspect, that you cannot be a Christian.

    And, anyway, your idiotic friend who got half a dozen 'facts' wrong
    claimed that in the ancient world. None of the Abolitionists
    you mentioned come from the ancient world.

    Your friend is rewriting history to make it sound like only good came
    out of Christianity. If he, or you, believe this, you are utter fools.

    Nemesio
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    11 Mar '05 14:44
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I am talking about the hospitals we see today. Were you there to see the hospitals in ancient Egypt and Sri Lanka? How do you know they existed?
    This statement is proof that you don't even read the crap you plagarize.

    From your opening post:

    The world before Christ was a world without hospitals, a world without charity, a world without respect for the sanctity of life. Hospitals were an innovation of Christianity. Hence the healing symbol of a cross represents hospitals.

    This is a either lie or the person is so woefully unread that any claims he
    makes about history should be treated as suspect (which they are).

    Nemesio
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    11 Mar '05 15:50
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    There are sooooooo many untruths in that first post that I wouldn't know where to begin. Suffice to say, it give a completely ethnocentric view of World History, makes sweeping untrue generalizations about ancient societies (they didn't value work???) and is in general a complete load of BS. I would strongly urge the person who started this thre ...[text shortened]... History as anyone who believes the assertions made here is completely out of touch with reality.
    In other words:

    "Damn, he made some good points that I can't refute."

    "LIES!"

    "That'll give me time to think of something better to say..."
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    11 Mar '05 15:54
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    This statement is proof that you don't even read the crap you plagarize.

    From your opening post:

    [b]The world before Christ was a world without hospitals, a world without charity, a world without respect for the sanctity of life. Hospitals were an innovation of Christianity. Hence the healing symbol of a cross represents hospitals.


    This is a e ...[text shortened]... hat any claims he
    makes about history should be treated as suspect (which they are).

    Nemesio[/b]
    Give me a link to the ancient hospitals. Everyone knows there were doctors. But hospitals? I'd like to see.
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    11 Mar '05 15:55
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    No. I mean, between the time of that letter to the present day,
    people have taken that Scripture to mean slavery is permissible.

    That is, while some people have used Christianity to oppose slavery,
    others used it to justify it.

    If you think that people haven't used Christianity to justify slavery
    (and succeeded), then your knowledge of Christian h ...[text shortened]... ly good came
    out of Christianity. If he, or you, believe this, you are utter fools.

    Nemesio
    Show me what slavemasters defended slavery with and I'll give you several verses why they are mistaken.
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    11 Mar '05 16:08
    Originally posted by Darfius
    In other words:

    "Damn, he made some good points that I can't refute."

    "LIES!"

    "That'll give me time to think of something better to say..."
    Jesus H. Christ, grow up a little...
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    11 Mar '05 16:14
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Jesus H. Christ, grow up a little...
    Funny, that's what I say about n01 everytime he blindly negates everything a Christian says with no support. None. Whatsoever.

    Well, I say all of that except senseless using a good man's name as a curse word. Why do you do that?
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    11 Mar '05 16:18
    "There is no doubt that Jesus Christ is the greatest man who has ever lived in all of history."

    If the above is true, that there is no doubt, then this entire thread is pointless - we have all accepted the claim already.

    If the above is false, then your referenced argument starts with a lie, and the author loses all credibility.

    That's what you get for blind copying of others' arguments without filterting them through your own analysis.
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    11 Mar '05 16:25
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Funny, that's what I say about n01 everytime he blindly negates everything a Christian says with no support. None. Whatsoever.

    Well, I say all of that except senseless using a good man's name as a curse word. Why do you do that?
    Go outside and play, Darfius. There's an entire planet out there waiting for you.
  11. Standard memberDarfius
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    11 Mar '05 16:45
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Go outside and play, Darfius. There's an entire planet out there waiting for you.
    Does patronizing me lend credence to your point of view? If so, how?
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    11 Mar '05 16:52
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Does patronizing me lend credence to your point of view? If so, how?
    My point of view? What are you talking about?

    It's just advice, Darfius. You spend an unhealthy amount of time in here grinding your axe with people who will never accept your point of view. You need to get out into the real world and see what's waiting there for you. I don't mean to patronise you, but if it comes across that way, it's because your defenses are up like they always are.
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    11 Mar '05 16:54
    Originally posted by darvlay
    My point of view? What are you talking about?

    It's just advice, Darfius. You spend an unhealthy amount of time in here grinding your axe with people who will never accept your point of view. You need to get out into the real world and see what's waiting there for you. I don't mean to patronise you, but if it comes across that way, it's because your defenses are up like they always are.
    "Go outside and play." How is that not patronizing? Let not the victomizer play the victim.

    Why is it unhealthy? If my time spent here convinces someone, then it is better spent than anything else, in my point of view. Never? That is rather arrogant. That implies a bias against God from the outset.
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    11 Mar '05 16:58
    Originally posted by Darfius
    "Go outside and play." How is that not patronizing? Let not the victomizer play the victim.

    Why is it unhealthy? If my time spent here convinces someone, then it is better spent than anything else, in my point of view. Never? That is rather arrogant. That implies a bias against God from the outset.
    Fine then. Waste your time here. Have fun.
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    11 Mar '05 17:10
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Fine then. Waste your time here. Have fun.
    He might be wasting his time on you. But don't speak for everyone else. 🙂
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