The Health Risks of Gay Sex

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
People are people RC. Promiscuous people are promiscuous, regardless of their sexual persuasion. Do you really believe that gay people are having more sex than heterosexual people? Some of them will be. Some won't.

Why do you care so much about what gay people are doing anyway? What motivates this crusade of yours?

Tim Fisher analyzed a number of studies regarding promiscuity rates among gay and straight men and conducted his own research and found similar rates of promiscuity between gay and straight men. The average number of sexual partners for gay men was 6 (compared to an average of 5 for straight men). Below I have reproduced some of Fisher’s very interesting 2006 article. The whole article can be found here.

As you can see, the gay men’s statistics track fairly closely with the straight men’s—up to a point. Where we see a significant discrepancy is at the very high levels of promiscuity (i.e. 20–100, and over 100 partners). This finding corroborates other surveys I’ve seen.

My conclusion, then, is that (according to the GSS data) there is a segment of gay men (roughly 13% of the total of gay men) who are promiscuous to a degree that straight men are not. That is, 87% of gay men display levels of promiscuity that are parallel to those of unmarried straight men.

http://humbumbershoot.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-gay-men-more-promiscuous-than-straight-men-analyzing-research-results/

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
People are people RC. Promiscuous people are promiscuous, regardless of their sexual persuasion. Do you really believe that gay people are having more sex than heterosexual people? Some of them will be. Some won't.

Why do you care so much about what gay people are doing anyway? What motivates this crusade of yours?

Why do you care so much about what gay people are doing anyway? What motivates this crusade of yours?

crusade, LOL, yes here i am, lancing and macing my way through the RHP Holy land to dispel these infidels, the gays! I want to dispel the myth that homosexuality is normal, healthy and acceptable. Its contrary to nature, unhealthy and unacceptable. In the process I would also like to dispel the myth that its immutable and genetically pre determined. Why? because it corroborates my religious beliefs.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Tim Fisher analyzed a number of studies regarding promiscuity rates among gay and straight men and conducted his own research and found similar rates of promiscuity between gay and straight men. The average number of sexual partners for gay men was 6 (compared to an average of 5 for straight men). Below I have reproduced some of Fisher’s very interes ...[text shortened]... dpress.com/2009/06/09/are-gay-men-more-promiscuous-than-straight-men-analyzing-research-results/

But those figures clearly show that in general, heterosexual men are more promiscuous than homosexual men! It just happens that, for reasons unknown, the very few very promiscuous people within the survey are homosexual. Unfortunately, the link to the GSS website posted by Fisher (the only one of the surveys he quotes which actually represents gay men as significantly more promiscuous) doesn't work so I can't look at how the respondents were selected, but I would bet that the 'reasons unknown' relate to that rather than actual differences in behaviour.

And let's not overlook Tim Fisher's email address at the bottom of the page eh? Again, you have chosen a study where the analyst is selecting data to agree with his preexisting prejudices.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Why do you care so much about what gay people are doing anyway? What motivates this crusade of yours?

crusade, LOL, yes here i am, lancing and macing my way through the RHP Holy land to dispel these infidels, the gays! I want to dispel the myth that homosexuality is normal, healthy and acceptable. Its contrary to nature, unhealthy and unacceptab ...[text shortened]... ts immutable and genetically pre determined. Why? because it corroborates my religious beliefs.

Yes, that's one of the big problems with organised religions such as yours. You can't help but try to foist your own peculiar moral outlook on everybody else, can you?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Tim Fisher analyzed a number of studies regarding promiscuity rates among gay and straight men and conducted his own research and found similar rates of promiscuity between gay and straight men. The average number of sexual partners for gay men was 6 (compared to an average of 5 for straight men). Below I have reproduced some of Fisher’s very interes ...[text shortened]... dpress.com/2009/06/09/are-gay-men-more-promiscuous-than-straight-men-analyzing-research-results/

Ah I think i may have found the flaw in Tim Fisher's analysis. He excludes women, therefore excluding female prostitutes, but keeping male prostitutes within his dataset. These no doubt constitute the very few extremely promiscuous gay men.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
But those figures clearly show that in general, heterosexual men are [b]more promiscuous than homosexual men! It just happens that, for reasons unknown, the very few very promiscuous people within the survey are homosexual. Unfortunately, the link to the GSS website posted by Fisher (the only one of the surveys he quotes which actually represents ...[text shortened]... osen a study where the analyst is selecting data to agree with his preexisting prejudices.[/b]

the figures are what they are, the assertion therefore that gays (in particular) gay men are more promiscuous is certainly true, for at least a percentage of those practising homosexuality.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Yes, that's one of the big problems with organised religions such as yours. You can't help but try to foist your own peculiar moral outlook on everybody else, can you?

On the contrary, there are those who are determined to impose a morality on others and who will prosecute you if you do not accept their morality under the guise of sexual discrimination. I will not prosecute you in you refuse me entry to your establishment on the basis of my race, creed or religion or any other reason, i will simply go somewhere else. But if i was gay you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was refused entry on the basis of my sexual preference i would make you subject to a court order. Clearly you need to feel your bum and be brought back to reality about who is imposing what on who.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Clearly you need to feel your bum and be brought back to reality about who is imposing what on who.

Would you settle for a complete dismantling of all institutionalized discrimination against homosexuals in return for a more libertarian approach to the rights of business owners?

Originally posted by FMF
Would you settle for a complete dismantling of all institutionalized discrimination against homosexuals in return for a more libertarian approach to the rights of business owners?

what has this to do with the health or otherwise of gay sex?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what has this to do with the health or otherwise of gay sex?

You said: "I will not prosecute you in you refuse me entry to your establishment on the basis of my race, creed or religion or any other reason, i will simply go somewhere else. But if i was gay you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was refused entry on the basis of my sexual preference i would make you subject to a court order. "

So I was asking you about it.

Originally posted by FMF
You said: "I will not prosecute you in you refuse me entry to your establishment on the basis of my race, creed or religion or any other reason, i will simply go somewhere else. But if i was gay you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was refused entry on the basis of my sexual preference i would make you subject to a court order. "

So I was asking you about it.

I have nothing to say about it, the title of this thread is, The Health Risks of Gay Sex, please respect that or start your own thread.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have nothing to say about it, the title of this thread is, The Health Risks of Gay Sex, please respect that or start your own thread.

But you said, less than 20 minutes ago, on this thread, "I will not prosecute you in you refuse me entry to your establishment on the basis of my race, creed or religion or any other reason, i will simply go somewhere else. But if i was gay you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was refused entry on the basis of my sexual preference i would make you subject to a court order." I am simply responding to this "point" you have made.

So my response to your post is to ask if you would settle for a complete dismantling of all institutionalized discrimination against homosexuals in return for a more libertarian approach to the rights of business owners.

Originally posted by FMF
But you said, less than 20 minutes ago, on this thread, "I will not prosecute you in you refuse me entry to your establishment on the basis of my race, creed or religion or any other reason, i will simply go somewhere else. But if i was gay you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was refused entry on the basis of my sexual preference i would make you subject to ...[text shortened]... inst homosexuals in return for a more libertarian approach to the rights of business owners.

again, if you have anything to contribute to the title of the thread then please do so, if not, hijack something else, this is your last warning, all posts addressed to me personally that have no relevance to the theme of the thread will be ignored at my discrepancy, unless i feel they are valid and or worthy of a reply.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again, if you have anything to contribute to the title of the thread then please do so, if not, hijack something else, this is your last warning, all posts addressed to me personally that have no relevance to the theme of the thread will be ignored at my discrepancy, unless i feel they are valid and or worthy of a reply.

I am responding directly to your post on this page of this thread, robbie. When you mentioned "entry to [an] establishment" you were referring to business premises, right? Would you settle for an end to institutionalized discrimination against gays if the political compromise was that it brought an end to such "court orders" as you mentioned in your post?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Ah I think i may have found the flaw in Tim Fisher's analysis. He excludes women, therefore excluding female prostitutes, but keeping male prostitutes within his dataset. These no doubt constitute the very few extremely promiscuous gay men.

no that is an irrelevancy, his comparison is not between homosexuals in general, but specifically men, introducing women is an irrelevancy to the comparison between homosexual men and heterosexual men.