The Love of God

Originally posted by @fmf
I would kill somebody who was trying to do mortal harm to my family. I have a moral duty - which we have discussed at length before - to protect them from harm.

Whether the attacker was a homosexual would be beside the point.

And yet you can find some historical moral justification for killing homosexuals just for being homosexuals.

I don't have a r ...[text shortened]... an if they believe their god figure wants them to. In what way is this point I am making "moot"?

The assumption he makes is God exisys and defines good and evil. His assumption is that God is the God of all.

Your wording must reflect these assumptions of yoi are going to apply logic to it.

You apply your assumptions to counter his assumptions which os mot applying logic.

Originally posted by @eladar
The assumption he makes is God exisys and defines good and evil. His assumption is that God is the God of all.

Your wording must reflect these assumptions of yoi are going to apply logic to it.

You apply your assumptions to counter his assumptions which os mot applying logic.

If you had anything worth saying you would comment on which thing I said that was incorrect.

Originally posted by @fmf
If you had anything worth saying you would comment on which thing I said that was incorrect.

Oh yes, don't question the premise.

Originally posted by @eladar
Oh yes, don't question the premise.

Still nothing to actually comment on. Just a kind of pseudy babble from you.

Originally posted by @fmf
I would kill somebody who was trying to do mortal harm to my family. I have a moral duty - which we have discussed at length before - to protect them from harm.

Whether the attacker was a homosexual would be beside the point.

And yet you can find some historical moral justification for killing homosexuals just for being homosexuals.

I don't have a r ...[text shortened]... an if they believe their god figure wants them to. In what way is this point I am making "moot"?

With all of your rancor toward God and with your blindness to your own tightly held superstitions, why are you here, again?

Originally posted by @freakykbh
With all of your rancor toward God and with your blindness to your own tightly held superstitions, why are you here, again?

I don't feel any rancour for a god figure I do not believe in. I have no belief in supernatural causality or the existence of any kind of supernatural instructions detailing punishments and rewards to humans ~ so I am not superstitious. I am here, among other things, to engage people who propagate ideologies rooted in their assertions about divine beings and magical happenings. This is the forum for it. If it were a forum intended only for Christians, or for Muslims, or for particular religionists of any stripe, I would not be active here.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If God is the source of all truth and the Bible is His revelation it would appear circular to the one who believes in no truth.

Here's one for you: Is relying on the laws of logic because you believe they laws of logic are reliable, not circular logic?

You are wastong your time with him of you claim to assume God ecists. He is unwilling to make such an assumption at any level.

Is it good because the gods say so, or do the gods say so because it is good.

Originally posted by @fmf
I don't feel any rancour for a god figure I do not believe in. I have no belief in supernatural causality or the existence of any kind of supernatural instructions detailing punishments and rewards to humans ~ so I am not superstitious. I am here, among other things, to engage people who propagate ideologies rooted in their assertions about divine beings and ma ...[text shortened]... tians, or for Muslims, or for particular religionists of any stripe, I would not be active here.

I am here, among other things, to engage people who propagate ideologies rooted in their assertions about divine beings and magical happenings.
That's a given.
What is the 'why' to the question?

Originally posted by @freakykbh
That's a given.
What is the 'why' to the question?

Ask me something that either makes sense or that doesn't involve me having to repeat what I said.

Originally posted by @fmf
Ask me something that either makes sense or that doesn't involve me having to repeat what I said.

It makes perfect sense: the kind that stands because it's what we say to ourselves when we're finally able to be honest with ourselves.

Why would you be here if you have no regard for any or all beliefs?
It's akin to an atheist-turned-believer who, instead of fortifying their newfound belief by immersion into its tenets and subsequent adjustments to their philosophical perspectives, they spend their time in their old haunts: hanging around their former colleagues, trolling and taunting them for their, as they urge, lack of belief.
Why?
Homesick?
No penalties: come on back.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
It makes perfect sense: the kind that stands because it's what we say to ourselves when we're finally able to be honest with ourselves.

Why would you be here if you have no regard for any or all beliefs?
It's akin to an atheist-turned-believer who, instead of fortifying their newfound belief by immersion into its tenets and subsequent adjustments to t ...[text shortened]... em for their, as they urge, lack of belief.
Why?
Homesick?
No penalties: come on back.

I find the debates and discussions interesting.

Originally posted by @fmf
I find the debates and discussions interesting.

It was meant for you to ask yourself.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
It was meant for you to ask yourself.

OK.

Originally posted by @fmf
I would kill somebody who was trying to do mortal harm to my family. I have a moral duty - which we have discussed at length before - to protect them from harm.

Whether the attacker was a homosexual would be beside the point.

And yet you can find some historical moral justification for killing homosexuals just for being homosexuals.

I don't have a r ...[text shortened]... an if they believe their god figure wants them to. In what way is this point I am making "moot"?

Your point is moot because I will never kill a homosexual for being a homosexual. Guess why? Because I didn’t stop reading the Bible at Leviticus like you probably did. Do yourself a favor and study the rest of the Bible as well.