Originally posted by whodey
But don't we see those in the Muslim world today who do interpret killing the "infidel" as justifiable when a perceived "persecution" arises? Do some of them not connect such verses together like a puzzle?
But don't we see those in the Muslim world today who do interpret killing the "infidel" as justifiable when a perceived "persecution" arises? Do some of them not connect such verses together like a puzzle? It reminds me of a movie I saw once called "Falling Down". It was about this down and out individual who simply could not take any more "persecution" fr ...[text shortened]... em. That could be translated that he hates their unbelief rather than them personally.
If I told you that at a period of time, Christians formed what is called crusades, and they invaded Muslim countries, killed them in millions by the name of Jesus, and the cross was their flag.
If I told you that my country remained under occupation of Christians for 70 years starting from 1882 to 1952, and during this period they killed my people, took our money and their flag was the cross.
Will you say they didn't connect the puzzle from the Bible as will?
I realize not all Muslims fit the pieces of the puzzle like this but you must realize that some do.
What you don't realize that the Majority of Muslims don't, what you don't realize that the minority that do are the result of Christian corruption in Islamic world. Isn't Ben Laden for example USA made.
I'm from Egypt and I used to have a chritian neighbor when I was young , he was my friend and I never thought about hurting him.
You don't know anything about the prophet teaching, all what you know is what your media say. I asked you several times to read.
The prophet tell us if you called someone to Islam and he become a muslim this is better than for me than every thing in the world.
Do you think I will do that by killing him first? Mulsims want every one to reach the truth, but they are being attacked from every where for no reason. Tell me where in the history you know Muslims initiated any conflict. Be honest and think about it, and show me where?
After all, there are no verses in the Quran that mandates loving your enemy as in the Bible so such teachings are easier to justify.
I answered you before for that in the Quran thread, and you ignored my answer as usuall. So I will not repeate it again.
Also, did not Mohammad convert with the sword or am I mistaken?
Yes, you are Mistaken. Show me an Islamic reference that show that?
Show me where in Quran where you find the word sword.....
The prophet stayed for 10 years suffering from his people, being punished by preventing him and his followers from food, sent away from their homes, but his followers increased.
As far as Allah loving the unbeleiver I would say either he loves them or he does not love them. It is much like your child. Either you love them or you do not love them. Granted, you may not like what they do, but if you loved them you would never stop loving them despite hating some of the things they do. I could even go for the Quran saying that he hates the unbeliever rather than not loving them. That could be translated that he hates their unbelief rather than them personally.
According to the bible, where will the unbelivers will at the end. In heaven or on hell?
If you say in heavem then why do you belive in anything.
And if you say in hell , why will GOD put them in hell if he loves them.
Please answer my question...!!!!