The Ragwort Questions

Originally posted by @roigam
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But, we are created to want to live forever....

zat a fact?

The creators have some explaining to do.

Originally posted by @apathist
zat a fact?

The creators have some explaining to do.

I think it would be stupid to deny the idea there are probably billions of civilizations out in the universe at large. So would they also have this idea of life after death? I can't ask them but what do you think an alien religion would be like? And would it be as valid as Earthy religions?

I would think if we actually could talk to one of those civilizations, they would view their religions as THE real ones while all the ones on Earth would be false, man made.

What do you all think?

Originally posted by @sonhouse
I think it would be stupid to deny the idea there are probably billions of civilizations out in the universe at large. So would they also have this idea of life after death? I can't ask them but what do you think an alien religion would be like? And would it be as valid as Earthy religions?

I would think if we actually could talk to one of those civili ...[text shortened]... as THE real ones while all the ones on Earth would be false, man made.

What do you all think?

If an independently arising alien civilization arose that cited some sort of Theistic belief, Atheists on both sides would be on sticky ground!

Originally posted by @ragwort
If an independently arising alien civilization arose that cited some sort of Theistic belief, Atheists on both sides would be on sticky ground!

Not really. I think it would merely demonstrate that advanced intelligent life, irrespective of planet of origin, will try to make sense of existence and invariably attribute it to external influence and control.

the 144,000 die before they go to Heaven even as Christ Jesus died before he
was resurrected and then ascended to Heaven.
The great crowd have the opportunity to live through the end of this system of things
and if they pass the final test by Satan at the end of the 1000 years, they receive
everlasting life without ever dying dependent on their being obedient to Jehovah God,

Originally posted by @roigam
the 144,000 die before they go to Heaven even as Christ Jesus died before he
was resurrected and then ascended to Heaven.
The great crowd have the opportunity to live through the end of this system of things
and if they pass the final test by Satan at the end of the 1000 years, they receive
everlasting life without ever dying dependent on their being obedient to Jehovah God,

So I asked you this: You believe that the “little flock” of 144,000 who go to "Heaven" all die eventually?

And I asked you this: You believe that the “great crowd” that will reside on Earth will not live forever either?

Just to be clear: your answers are the “little flock” of 144,000 rise from the dead and then live forever, right? And the “great crowd”, if 'obedient', will reside on Earth and receive "everlasting life", yes?

Once this rebellion on Earth has been resolved, I think there may be many other
civilizations in the universe.
Until that happens, there are only the angels out there.
There used to e good and bad angels out there but since Satan and his demons
have been thrown down to Earth, there are only good angels.
see Revelation 12:7-9

Yes.

Originally posted by @roigam
Once this rebellion on Earth has been resolved, I think there may be many other
civilizations in the universe.
Until that happens, there are only the angels out there.
There used to e good and bad angels out there but since Satan and his demons
have been thrown down to Earth, there are only good angels.
see Revelation 12:7-9

Is this contribution intended to address the OP?

Originally posted by @roigam
Yes.

So you believe the “little flock” of 144,000 will live forever and the “great crowd” will receive everlasting life. And yet they are not immortal according to the definition offered for this thread? How come?

Originally posted by @roigam
Yes.

If you would, please use the "Reply & Quote" feature, as this would allow us to more clearly see exactly who and what you are replying to. Thanks.

Originally posted by @fmf
Is this contribution intended to address the OP?

Yes.
I'm saying the only hope we have for improvement for the next millennia is
to learn the truth about why mankind is the way it is and how our Creator intends
to correct the situation.
Our Creator, Jehovah god, created a perfect world. We have lost that, but,
Jehovah has purposed to restore the creation he has made to its rightful condition,
As it states at Ephesians 1:8-10 He intends to bring all things together in the Christ.
He has already brought peace to the Heavens by evicting Satan and his demons.
We can learn God's purpose and bring our lives into harmony with it and benefit
by gaining everlasting life.
Could there be any better course for us?

Originally posted by @suzianne
If you would, please use the "Reply & Quote" feature, as this would allow us to more clearly see exactly who and what you are replying to. Thanks.

Yes, thank you for the tip.
Bye for now.
I'll check back.

Originally posted by @roigam
Yes.
I'm saying the only hope we have for improvement for the next millennia is
to learn the truth about why mankind is the way it is and how our Creator intends
to correct the situation.
Our Creator, Jehovah god, created a perfect world. We have lost that, but,
Jehovah has purposed to restore the creation he has made to its rightful condition,
As it ...[text shortened]... mony with it and benefit
by gaining everlasting life.
Could there be any better course for us?

I get that you are taking this opportunity to proselytize. I don't get how the stuff you are typing addresses the OP. Please clarify.

Originally posted by @fmf
I get that you are taking this opportunity to proselytize. I don't get how the stuff you are typing addresses the OP. Please clarify.

What exactly are you looking for?
I am just putting information out there for consideration.
If it's not apropos, correct me.