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Originally posted by RJHindsKind of like your Jesus dude then.
They are like those Roman emperors who wished to be worshipped as gods.
Originally posted by sonhouseGod deserves worship, the Roman emperors do not deserve worship.
Kind of like your Jesus dude then.
Originally posted by finneganJesus never did. Never ceases to amaze me the contortions many go through in their attempts to "prove" that He did. With them everything's a "sign".
When did Jesus say he was God / a god? I thought that was Paul's idea. Jesus was an observant Jew and would never have blasphemed in that way.
Originally posted by finneganAnd God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’
When did Jesus say he was God / a god? I thought that was Paul's idea. Jesus was an observant Jew and would never have blasphemed in that way.
Originally posted by SuzianneI do not have to ask them because Jesus has already asked them and they gave their answer in the verse you referenced as stated below:
See John 10:33, my friend.
The Jews are the ones who accused Him of blasphemy. Ask them.
Originally posted by RJHindsIn John 10, Jesus explains that He was claiming to be a "son of God" - not God Himself.
I do not have to ask them because Jesus has already asked them and they gave their answer in the verse you referenced as stated below:
I and My Father are one.”
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
The Jews answered Him, sa ...[text shortened]... did not accept Him as being God manifest in the flesh, but only another man claiming to be God.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyRama is eternal and never born.
When were they born?
Originally posted by Dasayou are wrong. you are deceived. your whole belief system is a lie and you are deluding your self into thinking otherwise, and that makes you dishonest.
Rama is eternal and never born.
Vishnu is eternal and never born.
Lord Brahma is a demigod and was born billions of years ago by the creative potency of Lord Vishnu.........and when Lord Brahma passes over - another Lord Brahma is created and the process of creation continues.
But remember that when a living being passes over - they pass over into anot ...[text shortened]... back to Godhead........our spiritual eternal home.
This material cosmos is not out true home.
Originally posted by wolfgang59Transcendental means .......beyond the material.
Dasa
What do you mean by transcendental spiritual knowledge
Its your phrase so you explain.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe Jews understood His claim alright, they just did not believe it. Jesus claiming to be the Son of God meant He was claiming to be equal with God. That is exactly how the Jews understood it. Jesus was not correcting them, but justifying His claim.
In John 10, Jesus explains that He was claiming to be a "son of God" - not God Himself.
John 10
31The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, ...[text shortened]... n of God". Clearly it is not to be taken as the literal offspring of God or God Himself.