1. Standard memberchaney3
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    25 Nov '16 06:31
    It would certainly help my faith if the 'shroud' was proven real.
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    25 Nov '16 06:57
    Originally posted by chaney3
    It would certainly help my faith if the 'shroud' was proven real.
    Real in what way? It really does exist.
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    25 Nov '16 07:00
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Real in what way? It really does exist.
    So you believe in it?
    And now have conformed in Christianity?
    Good to know.
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    25 Nov '16 07:31
    Originally posted by chaney3
    It would certainly help my faith if the 'shroud' was proven real.
    You should PM @RJHinds; within minutes you'll be an evangelist.
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    25 Nov '16 07:52
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You should PM @RJHinds; within minutes you'll be an evangelist.
    You should 'be aware'.
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    25 Nov '16 08:17
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You should PM @RJHinds; within minutes you'll be an evangelist.
    What is your opinion of the Shroud Dive?
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    Never again will the church let icons suffer examination. They learned that lesson.
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    25 Nov '16 09:281 edit
    Originally posted by chaney3
    It would certainly help my faith if the 'shroud' was proven real.
    The sort of people who think along these same lines as you already believe and insist that the shroud has been proven "real". So what are you waiting for?
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    25 Nov '16 09:45
    Originally posted by chaney3
    So you believe in it?
    No. I have seen photos of it. I am fairly sure it exists based solely on evidence, not faith.

    And now have conformed in Christianity?
    No.

    Good to know.
    Stop jumping to unwarranted conclusions.
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    25 Nov '16 11:37
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No. I have seen photos of it. I am fairly sure it exists based solely on evidence, not faith.

    [b]And now have conformed in Christianity?

    No.

    Good to know.
    Stop jumping to unwarranted conclusions.[/b]
    Obviously it exists, the real question is it the shroud of JC. And the answer is no.
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    25 Nov '16 13:03
    The thing is amazing and mysterious by itself. We know the time period where it was created. But how and why? By whom?
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    25 Nov '16 14:26
    Originally posted by apathist
    The thing is amazing and mysterious by itself. We know the time period where it was created. But how and why? By whom?
    What time period are you aware of?
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    25 Nov '16 15:52
    Originally posted by apathist
    The thing is amazing and mysterious by itself. We know the time period where it was created. But how and why? By whom?
    We know roughly the time period and can guess at by whom, and can make a reasonably good guess as to why (relics are valuable). I wouldn't call it amazing or mysterious though.
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    25 Nov '16 16:06
    Sonhouse, I mean via carbon dating, without research right now I think middle ages, 1400 or so?

    Tw, there is still how. Why, yes forgery is lucrative. Who, please share. And I want to say, I like mystery, and wonder why you like popping bubbles. meany-head
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    25 Nov '16 16:07
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    We know roughly the time period and can guess at by whom, and can make a reasonably good guess as to why (relics are valuable). I wouldn't call it amazing or mysterious though.
    The problem with the official dating was they took a piece from a corner that had been repaired later so showed an erroneous date. They won't be given a second chance I'm sure. The church would not like to have it dated to the year 400 or so....
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