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i know you guys dont like to question god......but, what did he do before the whole earth,bible,destruction,jesus,love thing? did he experience love before he thought of us.........if not, did we create love?
Originally posted by stellspalfieGood questions for sure and we all have questioned these things too. But the only information we have as of now is his words in the bible.
i know you guys dont like to question god......but, what did he do before the whole earth,bible,destruction,jesus,love thing? did he experience love before he thought of us.........if not, did we create love?
Originally posted by galveston75The Bible is written by men not any God.
Good questions for sure and we all have questioned these things too. But the only information we have as of now is his words in the bible.
Really all we know about the time before he created us is his creating of the universe and all one has to do is look up at night and see that he has been busy for a long time with his son by his side.
So those g ...[text shortened]... ip is restored with him, he will let us know more about himself and the past before man existed.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyYou do not believe that God could use fallible men to write a book for God ?
The Bible is written by men not any God.
Why do you insist that this book is the word of God
when it was written by fallible men?
Men who are imperfect and have their own agendas.
Originally posted by stellspalfieMaybe you can use some of your own interpretive skills to get some of your answers.
i know you guys dont like to question god......but, what did he do before the whole earth,bible,destruction,jesus,love thing? did he experience love before he thought of us.........if not, did we create love?
Originally posted by sonshipExcellent.. One needs to remember that God would not allow any of those men to write what he did not approve of. It is his words even though those men wrote them.
You do not believe that God could use fallible men to write a book for God ?
Christians believe that God could communicate through a book using men. We believe this book reflects different styles based on the human agent being inspired at the time.
So we believe the Psalms refects David's style yet is the word of God.
The Proverbs reflect Solomon' ...[text shortened]... God to man.
Man being fallible did not stop God from inspiring the Bible from being written.
Originally posted by galveston75The same god that created William Shakespeare wrote that pile of nonsense!
... God would not allow any of those men to write what he did not approve of. It is his words even though those men wrote them.
...they followed Gods input to write exactly what he wanted.
Originally posted by galveston75What evidence do you have to back this assertion and which might persuade a non-Christian to come around to believing the same thing as you in this matter?
It is his words even though those men wrote them. I believe on a few occasions that they even said they had no understanding of what they wrote but yet they followed Gods input to write exactly what he wanted.
Originally posted by FMFI have no power to persuade anyone to believe anything. If it's not in there heart, nothing I could say would make them "come around".
What evidence do you have to back this assertion and which might persuade a non-Christian to come around to believing the same thing as you in this matter?
Originally posted by galveston75I am not claiming to be the best writer of all time (like your god is) but to be
So his words do not meet with your approval I see. Lets see you write a book such as the Bible...
Originally posted by galveston75If all you can come up with is that it is there, in your heart, do you accept that it is perfectly reasonable for someone to be unconvinced by what you and others claim about the Bible's authorship?
I have no power to persuade anyone to believe anything. If it's not in there heart, nothing I could say would make them "come around".
Originally posted by sonshipgod is love. so god loved before man before man was created. god has always been aware of everything so has always loved those things, time is meaningless and has no context in gods love.
Maybe you can use some of your own interpretive skills to get some of your answers.
How would you interpret this sentence spoken within the prayer of Jesus ?
[b]" ... for You [His Father] have loved Me before the foundation of the world." (John 17:24)
How would you understand the phrase "before the foundation of the world" ...[text shortened]... /b], might that suggest something about divine love's existence in, say, eternity ?[/b]
god is love. so god loved before man before man was created. god has always been aware of everything so has always loved those things, time is meaningless and has no context in gods love.
i was going somewhere else, but this constant use of the world 'love' is interesting.
does the bible define what love is? i feel various forms of love and they are all very different.
Originally posted by sonshipother than the love for his creations, does god experience any other love?god is love. so god loved before man before man was created. god has always been aware of everything so has always loved those things, time is meaningless and has no context in gods love.
I asked you to use your own interpretive thoughts and gave you a few passages. It seems you have begun to do that.
I am told that God inhabits ete ...[text shortened]... small section of the OT is in Chaldean I believe in the book of Daniel, (I think).