The Top 10 Benefits of Agnosticism

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
The words you type seem to indicate you don't know (anything).

Is the ad hominem your new favorite logical fallacy?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Is the ad hominem your new favorite logical fallacy?

Is ad tedium yours?

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God's Word describes. I don't. You're off script again.

Quote a verse, any verse, or even all the verses in the Bible that talk about hell. What do they say? Pick one or a few. Copy/paste them here and we'll see what they say about hell and the fate of them that go there.

Originally posted by josephw
Quote sonship. I don't trust you because you always rephrase, misrepresent a posters intent and take their words out of context.

You've been here a decade and you don't realize that sonship believes in eternal torture for non-believers?

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"Are you saying unequivocally, that you do NOT accept the traditional view that unbelievers will be in an eternal firey hell where there will be suffering and punishment and Jesus will be there to witness?"

What I am saying is, provide the verses that support those conclusions. i.e. Eternal fiery hell, suffering, punishment and Jesus will be there to witness.

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It was when fmf was referencing sonship, but to you I say quote the Bible concerning the topic of hell.

Originally posted by josephw
It was when fmf was referencing sonship, but to you I say quote the Bible concerning the topic of hell.

Are you honestly unaware of the fact sonship "teaches" a doctrine involving the eternal torture of non-believers by the Christian God?

Originally posted by FMF
Are you honestly unaware of the fact sonship "teaches" a doctrine involving the eternal torture of non-believers by the Christian God?

What difference does it make whether or not I'm aware of what sonship "teaches"?

I know how difficult it is for you to stay on topic so I'll spell it out in as simply as I can.

What does the Bible say about hell?

Originally posted by chaney3
Arrogance is not welcomed in this thread.

That is not arrogance, that is truth. I don't see a deity ever coming down to Earth to either establish real moral absolutes or to fix our boo boo's. I am neither atheist or agnostic.

I don't give a crap one way or the other, if it hits me in the face so be it, but I know good and well I will have an extremely long wait for that to happen.

I just hate organized religions, who ALL of them, just made up what their idea of a deity should be like, like the fable of the blind men examining an elephant.

Nobody on Earth and I mean precisely that, NOBODY human on Earth has the tiniest clue as to what is real spritituality in spite of the fact more books have been written about that than most other subjects ever discussed by humans.

Humans trying to tell me about deities. What a joke.

So feel free to pull the 'oh so now you know the mind of god' card or the 'you are so arrogant' card.

Originally posted by josephw
What difference does it make whether or not I'm aware of what sonship "teaches"?

Have you ever said to sonship, here in public, anything along the lines of... "Of course God doesn't "torture" people for not believing in Him. You're stuck in an unbiblical narrative. The idea that God tortures people is unscriptural"?

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Why don't you demonstrate some intellectual honesty and stop beating around the bush and post the verses from the Bible that talk about the non-existence of hell?

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