Originally posted by chaney3
Great thread.
Dive's supposed Christianity is in question.

Are you a Christian chaney3? Yes or no.

Originally posted by divegeester
These horrid thoughts are from your heart, not my posting 🙂

No wonder you're the way you are. No sense of humor.

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm happy for us to exchange insults Joseph, I just find your attempt to use scripture as a mechanism for yours, quite distasteful.

What is distasteful is your misrepresentation of the intent of my use of the scriptures.

What is distasteful is your following the lead of fmf in that folly.

What is distasteful is your continuous hurling of derogatory remarks at me for no reason at all.

What is distasteful is the atheistic demeanor and tone of your posts.

Look closely geester. None of the above is an insult to your person. It's a critique of your words and actions.

Originally posted by josephw
What is distasteful is your misrepresentation of the intent of my use of the scriptures.

What is distasteful is your following the lead of fmf in that folly.

What is distasteful is your continuous hurling of derogatory remarks at me for no reason at all.

What is distasteful is the atheistic demeanor and tone of your posts.

Look closely geester. None of the above is an insult to your person. It's a critique of your words and actions.

I'm aware that you don't like me; it's OK, I don't hold it against you.

Originally posted by josephw
I'm grateful that you saved me countless hours not arguing with you. Thank you for being agnostic. 😵

Oh, you are quite welcome. And, likewise. OMG, you might even be a worse debater than FetchMyJunk. 🙂 😲 😀

Originally posted by divegeester
Yes I do believe Christ rose from the dead.
Yes I am a Christian.
No I don't call Jesus a liar.

Happy now 🙂

Jesus taught about a real hell. How can you contradict what Jesus said by saying hell doesn't exist? Seriously, isn't that akin to calling Jesus a liar?

Whatever. One doesn't have to believe hell exists to be a Christian.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
Oh, you are quite welcome. And, likewise. OMG, you might even be a worse debater than FetchMyJunk. 🙂 😲 😀

Well, I don't debate with FMJ so I wouldn't know which of us is worse. 😛 😉

Originally posted by josephw
Well, I don't debate with FMJ so I wouldn't know which of us is worse. 😛 😉

But you can read his posts ... or, don't you?

Originally posted by josephw
One doesn't have to believe hell exists to be a Christian.

Then why bother trying to understand how a loving god could do such a thing then? Why not just stfu and try to be a better person?

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm aware that you don't like me; it's OK, I don't hold it against you.

No you're not "aware" that I don't like you. It's not that.

I don't like what you say, but you're not the only one, so don't take it personally.

Who knows. In real life I might not like you at all, but then again maybe I would.

Originally posted by divegeester
Then why bother trying to understand how a loving god could do such a thing then? Why not just stfu and try to be a better person?

Do you really want to go there?

Then let's talk about the nature and character of our great God and saviour. Nothing else would give me more pleasure.

Originally posted by josephw
No you're not "aware" that I don't like you. It's not that.

I don't like what you say, but you're not the only one, so don't take it personally.

Who knows. In real life I might not like you at all, but then again maybe I would.

I don't like what you post either; hey maybe Jesus will send us both to his hell that you believe in.

Originally posted by josephw
Do you really want to go there?

Then let's talk about the nature and character of our great God and saviour. Nothing else would give me more pleasure.

Lol, do I really want to go where?

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
But you can read his posts ... or, don't you?

Yes I do. To be honest, while I agree in principle with the things FMJ says, I wouldn't necessarily say them the same way.

Unfortunately, since we're all flawed to one degree or another, anything any of us says could be said better and more accurately. With that in mind I try to stick with the topic and just grind my way through.

Originally posted by divegeester
Lol, do I really want to go where?

Apparently into the rabbit hole. 😉

Don't you remember what you said minutes ago? You know, about a loving God? You inferred that a loving God wouldn't send people to hell.

Such a discussion would necessitate the knowledge of God.

So I'm opening a discussion about the nature, character and attributes of God. Obviously we'll have to reference the Bible. Are you prepared to go there?