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Whether God "possessed" Wisdom or "set up" Wisdom, He could never be WITHOUT His Wisdom.
The Wisdom of God is as long as God Himself is.
Various translations (No not a conspiracy) of Proverbs 8:22 -
Parallel Verses
New International Version
"The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;
New Living Translation
"The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.
English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.
New American Standard Bible
"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
King James Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
The LORD made me at the beginning of His creation, before His works of long ago.
International Standard Version
"The LORD made me as he began his planning, before his ancient activity commenced.
NET Bible
The LORD created me as the beginning of his works, before his deeds of long ago.
New Heart English Bible
"The LORD created me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Jubilee Bible 2000
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
King James 2000 Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
American King James Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
American Standard Version
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.
Douay-Rheims Bible
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his ways, before he made any thing from the beginning.
Darby Bible Translation
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
English Revised Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
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-Removed-I am sure Darby translated the text as the word was divine, perhaps it was another translation could be mistaken. So tell us what you find objectionable in the New World translation rendering and how it diverges from the Greek. This should be intetesting. Tell the forum what the Moffatt translation says.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieJohn 1:1 - John Nelson Darby - A New Translation
I am sure Darby translated the text as the word was divine, perhaps it was another translation could be mistaken. So tell us what you find objectionable in the New World translation rendering and how it diverges from the Greek. This should be intetesting.
Darby Bible Translation
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
I think I may know what you might be referring to which Darby said he did not believe the sense of the Greek was supportive to the Deity of Christ, a truth which he counted as foundational to the Christian faith by the way.
But I don't think I will tell you now because I want you to believe that Jesus is God become a man as the NT says.
But there is one other verse that JN Darby thought had a different sense to it.
Darby translated both Hebrew and Greek. More importantly he was a very godly man consecrated to serve God for his whole life.
Do you believe that deeper consecration and obedience leads to deeper understanding of the revelation of God? I absolutely do believe that.
Originally posted by sonship
John 1:1 - John Nelson Darby - A New Translation
[b] Darby Bible Translation
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
I think I may know what you might be referring to which Darby said he did not believe the sense of the Greek was supportive to the Deity of Christ, a truth which he ...[text shortened]... obedience leads to deeper understanding of the revelation of God? I absolutely do believe that.[/b]lets stick to whats in the Bible and leave alone whats not shall we?
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-Removed-1808 “and the word was a god” The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text, London.
1864 “and a god was the Word” The Emphatic Diaglott ( interlinear reading), by Benjamin Wilson, New York and London.
1935 “and the Word was divine” The Bible—An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed, Chicago.
1950 “and the Word was a god” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures,Brooklyn.
1975 “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word” - Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz,Göttingen, Germany.
1978 “and godlike sort was the Logos” Johannes - Johannes Schneider,Berlin.
1979 “and a god was the Logos” - Johannes by Jürgen Becker, Würzburg, Germany.
Now I count at least six other renderings and the list is not exhaustive which render the text either 'the word was a god' or 'the word was divine, godlike etc' making your statement, (we wont call it a lie just yet) demonstrably FALSE!
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-Removed-These are translations which reference the exact clause which is in dispute, the third clause of John 1:1, feel free to research them on the internet.
Now you were telling us about the New world translation and how the rendering of John 1:1 differs from the Greek.