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Originally posted by EcstremeVenomHe could. But show me one single shred of evidence that he exists.
if a universe can be infinite, why cant god be infinite, in time with no beginning and no end?
Originally posted by twhiteheadOk, point taken about hypothesis. However, 'dark matter' fits precisely with definition # 1. It can't be observed in our visible universe. We only see its effects, and even that is called to question, if other hypotheses are true, like small mods to newonian gravity.
From webster
Supernatural
1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
2 a : departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature b : attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)
Qui ...[text shortened]... ok up "theory" before you use it so carelessly. 'Hypothesis' would suit your meaning better.
Originally posted by sonhouseIf I could frive to the point where the universe end/is expanding, and if I then could hit the gas and exceed the speed of light by a factor of C^23, pushing me over the barrier between where the universe is and where it is destined to expand, what would I see? If I turned on the headlights, would it make a difference?
It does not go on forever, but if you think about traveling on a globe such as the earrth, you can drive a million miles, lets say there was a freeway all the way round earth on the equator, you could drive forever and not come to the end. The universe is like that but on a higher dimensional level, If you go in a straight line, at some distance point in ti ...[text shortened]... ght" unquote๐ He also said its STILL expanding faster than the speed of light.
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Originally posted by EcstremeVenomThere are two things you have to understand.
is there a point where you hit a barrier and there is no more space, or does it go on forever?
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomIt's so big that if for each of i=1, 2, ..., n light years you travel in one direction you would gain 1/(i*i) IQ points, you could travel forever and never get to the right side of the bell curve.
is there a point where you hit a barrier and there is no more space, or does it go on forever?
Originally posted by sonhouseYou missed a half of the definition - of or relating to god, spirits or the devil. Not sure where dark matter fits into that.
Ok, point taken about hypothesis. However, 'dark matter' fits precisely with definition # 1. It can't be observed in our visible universe. We only see its effects, and even that is called to question, if other hypotheses are true, like small mods to newonian gravity.
So untill that is worked out, it is very much a supernatural phenomena.
Originally posted by sonhouseVery interesting post. I rec'd it for more to read.
It does not go on forever, but if you think about traveling on a globe such as the earrth, you can drive a million miles, lets say there was a freeway all the way round earth on the equator, you could drive forever and not come to the end. The universe is like that but on a higher dimensional level, If you go in a straight line, at some distance point in ti ...[text shortened]... ions of such universe sized bubbles sticking out but maybe in other dimensions.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is actually an illustrative point, though; we assign the label of "supernatural" only to those things we don't currently understand. It does not represent any intrinsic quality of those things; only the degree to which we do or don't understand them.
From webster
Supernatural
1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
2 a : departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature b : attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)
Qui ...[text shortened]... ok up "theory" before you use it so carelessly. 'Hypothesis' would suit your meaning better.
Originally posted by shavixmirI... don't think your treatment of dimensional space here is right. At all.
1. Space is in the 5th dimension (the 4th being time) to the 3rd dimension as the 3rd dimension is the 2nd.
This means: In the second (or "on" as the case would be) dimension you can move left and right infinitely, but as you have a third dimension, moving left ultimately brings you back to the beginning, but from the right hand side.
Take a flat piece ce" is the same. But instead of moving left, right, up or down, you can also move "away".
Originally posted by sonhousethere is not scientific proof to support this, it is only a theory
[b]It does not go on forever, but if you think about traveling on a globe such as the earrth, you can drive a million miles, lets say there was a freeway all the way round earth on the equator, you could drive forever and not come to the end. The universe is like that but on a higher dimensional level, If you go in a straight line, at some distance point in ti ...[text shortened]... going very very close to the speed of light, you would see you came back to the same place you left.
Originally posted by eatmybishopThat would be a hypothesis. A theory, in science, is a model that IS substantiated by experimental evidence. All theories are provisional; they're never "proven" (though they can always be "disproven" ). Theory is as close to truth as science ever gets, because scientists always have to be able to question their findings; that's what makes them so strong. But the fact that something is a theory in science doesn't mean it's really in doubt.
there is not scientific proof to support this, it is only a theory
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles1/(i*i)?
It's so big that if for each of i=1, 2, ..., n light years you travel in one direction you would gain 1/(i*i) IQ points, you could travel forever and never get to the right side of the bell curve.
Originally posted by darthmixObviously you are wrong.
Time is not the fourth dimension in any current model of physics; it's certainly not a spatial dimension, and does not belong in the same category as the three dimensions we can percieve. Those three dimensions - graphed along x, y, and z axes, as in algebra -