@fmf saidYou ask questions you know the answers to, then? You'd be better off expressing why those answers are not good; simply having someone tell you what you once believed without being able to say why it is not coherent isn't credible.
Excellent debating, KellyJay! I have lost my faith and no longer find what I once believed to be coherent or credible. Fancy that!
@kellyjay saidGosh. Where on Earth have you been during the 250 or so discussions we've supposedly had these last ten years?
You'd be better off expressing why those answers are not good; simply having someone tell you what you once believed without being able to say why it is not coherent isn't credible.
@fmf saidYou ask questions you know what the scripture says, and you get a Biblical answer you know you will get. Reality doesn't bend to our wills; it will remain constant if we accept it or not; what you are not doing is showing why the Biblical answers are wrong! Simply saying something is faith speech or some such nonsense is claiming without reason, with no justification of why anything said that you came is 'faith speech' is wrong, only that it is faith speech as if that alone says it is wrong. Every notion stands are falls on the truthfulness of the comment, not if it is a matter of faith or not.
Gosh. Where on Earth have you been during the 250 or so discussions we've supposedly had these last ten years?
We can and do the same thing other ways with science; we can accept everything anyone says in science as truth because it is in science, that too would be equally absurd and fly in the face of science; questioning is foundational.
If you see flaws in logic or inconsistency, bring them forward, holding them in your back pocket and making blanket claims about as if everyone should know is lazy.
@kellyjay saidWhere have you been during the hundreds and hundreds of discussions we've had over the last decade? What next, KellyJay? Come on FMF, why have you never explained your beliefs about morality?'
If you see flaws in logic or inconsistency, bring them forward, holding them in your back pocket and making blanket claims about as if everyone should know is lazy.
@fmf saidWhat do you think I've not addressed in our hundreds of discussions?
Where have you been during the hundreds and hundreds of discussions we've had over the last decade? What next, KellyJay? Come on FMF, why have you never explained your beliefs about morality?'
@fmf saidTruth isn't a matter of human opinion, human opinions can be based on truth, or we can be mistaken for something not true and base our beliefs on that. Simply because we have beliefs isn't of itself right or wrong; it is what is it we believe in, is that true or false.
What "truthfulness" are you referring to?
@kellyjay saidSo the "truthfulness" that you are referring to = your personal opinions about supernatural things, as I suspected, right?
Truth isn't a matter of human opinion, human opinions can be based on truth, or we can be mistaken for something not true and base our beliefs on that. Simply because we have beliefs isn't of itself right or wrong; it is what is it we believe in, is that true or false.