Originally posted by blindfaith101No. What matters is what words have been given to us from God. Many things were spoken by Jesus and not written down in Scripture. But the Word of God and the Scriptures and Jesus are inseparable. To know and believe one, is to know and believe the other.
Does every word That JESUS CHRIST spoke matter?
Originally posted by ColettiSo basically every word that Jesus spoke that is recorded in the Bible is important!
No. What matters is what words have been given to us from God. Many things were spoken by Jesus and not written down in Scripture. But the Word of God and the Scriptures and Jesus are inseparable. To know and believe one, is to know and believe the other.
Originally posted by eagles54Yes, that I can agree with. My view of the Trinity is that Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all of one mind - the one mind of God. And they are the three persons of God, with different manifestations and purposes.
I didn't think I was being ambiguous but perhaps I am.
Jesus is the human manifestation of God, am I right? Wouldn't that make them One?
Originally posted by ColettiMy confusion stems from your assertion that "What matters is what words have been given to us from God."
Yes, that I can agree with. My view of the Trinity is that Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all of one mind - the one mind of God. And they are the three persons of God, with different manifestations and purposes.
Aren't the words of Jesus equivalent to the words of God?
I'm trying to learn here, I'm not trying to stir it up unnecessarily.
Originally posted by eagles54All that JESUS CHRIST spoke was from GOD. JESUS CHRIST is GOD.Every word that he spoke has equal importance.
My confusion stems from your assertion that "What matters is what words have been given to us from God."
Aren't the words of Jesus equivalent to the words of God?
I'm trying to learn here, I'm not trying to stir it up unnecessarily.
Originally posted by blindfaith101But we don't know what Jesus spoke. The Bible tells us what he spoke but that isn't a transcript of his sermons. The NT wasn't written until after Jesus died. People didn't hang around with tape recorders or knew Pittman shorthand at his sermons. We read in the Bible an interpretation of what he supposedly said.
Does every word That JESUS CHRIST spoke matter?
Originally posted by Maustrauserthen what is THE BIBLE
But we don't know what Jesus spoke. The Bible tells us what he spoke but that isn't a transcript of his sermons. The NT wasn't written until after Jesus died. People didn't hang around with tape recorders or knew Pittman shorthand at his sermons. We read in the Bible an interpretation of what he supposedly said.
Originally posted by blindfaith101Why does one have to write in CAPS?
then what is THE BIBLE
The Bible is a collection of stories put together by numerous authors and committees over many years. You also need to define "Bible". There is no one Bible. There are many depending on what Christian or Jewish sect you belong to. [This is a slight problem for those claiming that it is the divine word of God - one would expect that God would have divinely inspired all Sects to believe in the one Bible).
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible