27 Feb '07 22:15Originally posted by Ian68It advocates switching your brain off. Stupid is cool in church circles - and I don't care which church - they're all the same - blind obedience.
The leaders use their position to manipulate their followers into doing their bidding.
The followers are so blinded by their beliefs that they lose the ability to apply common sense.
You can insert the name of any religion you like but it's still the same.
27 Feb '07 22:22Originally posted by Ian68I would say Buddhism and LaVeyan Satanism are less bad in this respect. Probably because they're not centralised.
The leaders use their position to manipulate their followers into doing their bidding.
The followers are so blinded by their beliefs that they lose the ability to apply common sense.
You can insert the name of any religion you like but it's still the same.
28 Feb '07 07:39Originally posted by Ian68Bottom line the worse thing about religion is 'people', they do all manner of evil things to one another.
The leaders use their position to manipulate their followers into doing their bidding.
The followers are so blinded by their beliefs that they lose the ability to apply common sense.
You can insert the name of any religion you like but it's still the same.
28 Feb '07 08:12Originally posted by KellyJayKelly, this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I've been meaning to ask people like you and dj2becker for a long time now; why is it that you always like to make something so straight-forward into something so complicated with dubious reasoning and arguments.
Bottom line the worse thing about religion is 'people', they do all manner of evil things to one another.
Kelly
28 Feb '07 08:25Originally posted by Ian68
The leaders use their position to manipulate their followers into doing their bidding.
The followers are so blinded by their beliefs that they lose the ability to apply common sense.
You can insert the name of any [religion, political movement, corporation, PTA] you like but it's still the same.
28 Feb '07 09:491 editOriginally posted by ckoh1965"Kelly, this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I've been meaning to ask people like you and dj2becker for a long time now; why is it that you always like to make something so straight-forward into something so complicated with dubious reasoning and arguments. "
Kelly, this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I've been meaning to ask people like you and dj2becker for a long time now; why is it that you always like to make something so straight-forward into something so complicated with dubious reasoning and arguments.
This thread is about what's the worst thing about religion; and your Mr Bean's car is that the driver is a big bully and likes to intimidate other road users.
28 Feb '07 13:24Originally posted by Ian68Actually you're right! Religion only serves to lead people further away from God, and to turn others away from the true and living God.
The leaders use their position to manipulate their followers into doing their bidding.
The followers are so blinded by their beliefs that they lose the ability to apply common sense.
You can insert the name of any religion you like but it's still the same.
28 Feb '07 13:27Originally posted by KellyJayNevertheless, gun control works!
You seem to think that something is strait-forward when it is complicated and dubious; that wasn’t hard to figure out! People in religion have everything to do with this lame attempt to paint religion as evil, when inside and outside of religion it is really people that do evil things. Why do you assume religion is more than just a tool to do good or evil i ...[text shortened]... r anything else is just an attempt to push off of ourselves the evil we do to each other.
Kelly
28 Feb '07 17:55Originally posted by twhiteheadNo gun contol does not stop people from killing people.
Nevertheless, gun control works!
Availability of guns does increase the number of deaths.
Availability of paper does not.
So although you could say that the reason for someone dying of gunshot wounds is the shooter, the gun is still partly to blame and we can still discuss the demerits of guns. This is not the same as 'painting guns as evil'.
The same ...[text shortened]... at. So the question is shouldn't we also discourage religion if it has harmful effects?
28 Feb '07 19:11Originally posted by KellyJayThe harder it is to get guns, the less people get killed by them.
No gun contol does not stop people from killing people.
Kelly
28 Feb '07 20:30Originally posted by sonhouseNo debate there you take away all guns they will stop killing with guns, but will continue to kill with bombs, knives, rocks, hand to hand, bath tubs, you name it people will use it if they can. Religion is a tool for some people, as cars are a tool, knifes are a tool, what that person with the tool does will make it used for good or evil. It is the heart of people is what we have to worry about.
The harder it is to get guns, the less people get killed by them.
Right now a 12 yo can get one for 20 bucks and start a shooting spree so that needs to be addressed, on that one specific issue. But you cannot deny that the main goal of religions is to increase its own following and the main way to do that is with supernatural threats and promises, which t ...[text shortened]... Jesus REALLY die on the cross? Yeah, right, you are really going to see arguments like that.....
28 Feb '07 20:48Originally posted by StarrmanI'm part of a religious community, the Roman-Catholic community, which encourages people to educate oneself and to research things.
The worst thing about religion is the propensity to encourage ignorance.
The worst thing about religion
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