1. Donationrwingett
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    17 Dec '06 20:261 edit
    Which wing will win? The progressive wing, which likes their bishops gay, or the medieval wing, which does not? My money's on the progressive wing, as any sensible person can see that the pro-gay faction is the wave of the future. The whole thing mirrors the former controversy over inter-racial marriage - formerly shunned, but now almost universally accepted. There will come a time when all Episcopalians will be in favor of gay bishops, and they will undoubtedly claim they always had been. In fact, they'll probably claim it was the Episcopalian Church which was on the forefront of social change in this regard.
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    17 Dec '06 21:43
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Which wing will win? The progressive wing, which likes their bishops gay, or the medieval wing, which does not? My money's on the progressive wing, as any sensible person can see that the pro-gay faction is the wave of the future. The whole thing mirrors the former controversy over inter-racial marriage - formerly shunned, but now almost universally accepte ...[text shortened]... aim it was the Episcopalian Church which was on the forefront of social change in this regard.
    I like Episcopalians. As denominations go, they are very tolerant and accepting. They are like all denominations in that there will always be these old blue-haired ladies who will resist change. I especially like their attention to good sacred music.
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    20 Dec '06 16:29
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Which wing will win? The progressive wing, which likes their bishops gay, or the medieval wing, which does not? My money's on the progressive wing, as any sensible person can see that the pro-gay faction is the wave of the future. The whole thing mirrors the former controversy over inter-racial marriage - formerly shunned, but now almost universally accepte ...[text shortened]... aim it was the Episcopalian Church which was on the forefront of social change in this regard.
    The "progressive" wing will contracept and abort itself out of existence, leaving the "stewardship of the earth" to the Muslims.
  4. Donationrwingett
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    20 Dec '06 16:50
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    The "progressive" wing will contracept and abort itself out of existence, leaving the "stewardship of the earth" to the Muslims.
    So the proper duty of Christians would be to spawn as many soldiers for Christ as they can to combat the heathens in the coming crusade? Does the higher birth rate in the Muslim world cause you many sleepless nights?
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    20 Dec '06 17:43
    Originally posted by rwingett
    So the proper duty of Christians would be to spawn as many soldiers for Christ as they can to combat the heathens in the coming crusade? Does the higher birth rate in the Muslim world cause you many sleepless nights?
    No and no.
  6. Donationrwingett
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    20 Dec '06 18:06
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    No and no.
    So your previous post was much ado about nothing?
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    20 Dec '06 18:13
    Originally posted by rwingett
    So your previous post was much ado about nothing?
    No, it wasn't. Your questions (particularly the first one) were poorly phrased, that's all.
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    20 Dec '06 18:25
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    No, it wasn't. Your questions (particularly the first one) were poorly phrased, that's all.
    My questions were poorly phrased and your answers were incomprehensible. Seems par for the course.
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    20 Dec '06 18:371 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    My questions were poorly phrased and your answers were incomprehensible. Seems par for the course.
    How is 'no' incomprehensible to you?

    EDIT: For the sake of moving the discussion along, I'll offer you a clue. What's the difference between the following pair of questions:

    1. Is it the civic duty of citizens in a democracy to vote in national elections?
    2. Is it the civic duty of citizens in a democracy to vote in national elections so that right-wing extremists can come to power?
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    21 Dec '06 06:42
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    The "progressive" wing will contracept and abort itself out of existence, leaving the "stewardship of the earth" to the Muslims.
    Why not claim they'll all become gay and fail to procreate at all? It makes about as much sense (i.e. none) as the above statement.
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    21 Dec '06 08:42
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    The "progressive" wing will contracept and abort itself out of existence, leaving the "stewardship of the earth" to the Muslims.
    You could have defended this statement as a nice piece of sarcasm.
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    21 Dec '06 08:44
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    No, it wasn't. Your questions (particularly the first one) were poorly phrased, that's all.
    Instead, you just made yourself look silly.
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    21 Dec '06 09:52
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Instead, you just made yourself look silly.
    "No and no" makes me look silly?

    Your shotgun comments make me wonder whether you've read a word of what I've actually posted in this thread.
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    21 Dec '06 09:57
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Why not claim they'll all become gay and fail to procreate at all?
    Because gays are born that way, didn't you know? Claiming that they'll all become gay would make as much sense as claiming they'll all become black, wouldn't it?

    Abortion and contraception, on the other hand, are choices (after all, it's called the pro-choice movement) made in line with one's ideology or worldview.
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    21 Dec '06 10:04
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    "No and no" makes me look silly?
    Uh, no, Mr Balkans 2006, no.
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