@KellyJay said
You cannot tell me to let us go up without a fixed point that we can rise above. You cannot tell me a fixed point in humanity that doesn’t include God. All you can offer is an opinion that billions of others may share some part of, but in the end, differ from one another. So the fixed point has to be something outside of us, just as justice has to be something outside of ...[text shortened]... on’s talk about Zebras? It covers this well, and not long, I will look for it and post if you want.