Torture?

Torture?

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Originally posted by TerrierJack
It is always the same with these people: Complain about injustice in the world and they'll tell you to wait for your death to find justice. Ask them whether waiting for death might preclude justice being achieved before death and they'll say you're not good enough for justice. Ask them how to become good enough and they'll tell you to just blindly accept ...[text shortened]... etter place than the greedy self-absorbed heaven these empty human shells hope to inhabit.
(i just wanted to put this back to the top.
Thnx mr.TJ . you've put it in anutshell. any takers?)

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No you don't grow used to the pain in Hell.

You are not in hell, Jesus will always help those in need... if they ask for it and are sincere.

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Originally posted by daniel58
No you don't grow used to the pain in Hell.

You are not in hell, Jesus will always help those in need... if they ask for it and are sincere.
How do you know I wont grow accustomed to the pain in Hell?
If I am not in hell then why the need for Jesus?
Seems like he would get a better response if he talked to people in hell.

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Originally posted by daniel58
No you don't grow used to the pain in Hell.

You are not in hell, Jesus will always help those in need... if they ask for it and are sincere.
Did he help Dilawar the shy and quiet taxi driver who was murdered at Bagram?

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Originally posted by TerrierJack
Why are so many religious people in America willing to accept torture as a policy? Isn't this a spiritual issue? Are torturers going to heaven? (If so, I'll gladly go to hell.)
What do you call torture?
Is making someone go through something they don't want to torture?
Is affecting someone's body in such a way they are not happy torture?
Where is the line, what can you do to someone?
Is making them sit in jail torture, if they know they will never get out?
If you want to gladly go Hell, fine by me, but at least discuss the
ins and out of the topic first, Hell will find you if your going to go there,
no matter if you are glad about it or not.
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Originally posted by KellyJay
What do you call torture?
Is making someone go through something they don't want to torture?
Is affecting someone's body in such a way they are not happy torture?
Where is the line, what can you do to someone?
Is making them sit in jail torture, if they know they will never get out?
If you want to gladly go Hell, fine by me, but at least discuss the
i ...[text shortened]... ll will find you if your going to go there,
no matter if you are glad about it or not.
Kelly
"On the day of his death, Dilawar had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days. A guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. When he was finally sent back to his cell, though, the guards were instructed only to chain the prisoner back to the ceiling. "Leave him up," one of the guards quoted Specialist Claus as saying. Several hours passed before an emergency room doctor finally saw Mr. Dilawar. By then he was dead, his body beginning to stiffen. It would be many months before Army investigators learned that most of the interrogators had in fact believed Mr. Dilawar to be an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time."

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Originally posted by TerrierJack
"On the day of his death, Dilawar had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days. A guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. Whe ...[text shortened]... r to be an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time."
Couple of things, what you just said is a story, where it came from, be
it true or not I have no idea; however, none of it answered my
questions to you!
Kelly

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Couple of things, what you just said is a story, where it came from, be
it true or not I have no idea; however, none of it answered my
questions to you!
Kelly
I know what he means by torture.
Do you not?
Especially in the context of his origonal post.
Don't be daft KJ.

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
I know what he means by torture.
Do you not?
Especially in the context of his origonal post.
Don't be daft KJ.
I'm glad you have mind reading abilities, I don't share those I want
him to tell me what he calls torture and what is not according to him.
Kelly

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1. Because the Bible says so "... Where the worm dieth not".
2. So you don't go there
3. The people in hell can't repent, but the people on earth can.