Turning the military cheek

@whodey said
As I look back at the loss of life in Vietnam with the seemingly zero good that caem from it, I tend to think it was not just and not worth it.

But when I think about the Korean war, which was much like the Vietnam war, and I see how prosperous and free South Korea is compared to the misery of North Korea, I take pause in trying to decide if that war was just as just and perhaps worth it.

It's a toughy.

The U.S. killed an extraordinary number of civilians in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Does the "Just War" designation cover that?

@fmf said
The U.S. killed an extraordinary number of civilians in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Does the "Just War" designation cover that?

Too many humans. Must get rid of some of them.

@Witless0Lee

Too many humans. Must get rid of some of them.

Ha, Ha .... he,he

Too many humans ... Must get rid of them.
Very good.

I'm sure your wit is admired here.
What else do you have ?

I'm seeking for truth and spiritual reality.
What do you have for participants like me ?

@sonship said
@Witless0Lee

Too many humans. Must get rid of some of them.

Ha, Ha .... he,he

Too many humans ... Must get rid of them.
Very good.

I'm sure your wit is admired here.
What else do you have ?

I'm seeking for truth and spiritual reality.
What do you have for participants like me ?

Clearly a fake account that will be gone tomorrow. Why bother responding to it?

@stellspalfie said
Are all deaths at the hands of the military/police killing? Can they be murder? How do you define which is which?

Lawful lawless

@whodey said
The commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" is an erroneous translation.

It's more like, Thou shalt not murder.

Sometimes killing is necessary.

How do you differentiate between killing and murder?

@stellspalfie said
How do you differentiate between killing and murder?

i cannot...

but then there's this,

“It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished,
unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.”
― Voltaire

@fmf said
The U.S. killed an extraordinary number of civilians in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Does the "Just War" designation cover that?

Compare that to how many have died under their communist captors.

How would we even know how many have been killed?

All we know is, they live under a tremendous amount of fear and oppression and there is seemingly no end to it. I believe that is what they call hell on earth.

@stellspalfie said
How do you differentiate between killing and murder?

You can be just in killing someone or unjust.

For example, a man charging someone with a knife to kill them is gunned down by a police officer.

This is not murder, or do you disagree?

@whodey said
Compare that to how many have died under their communist captors.
How would we even know how many have been killed?

I am aware of all that. And I am not asking you to compare anything. Nor am I seeking a debate about communists. You are an American Christian and I am asking you does the "Just War" designation cover, in your mind, the extraordinary number of civilians in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia that were killed by the U.S military?

@whodey said
You can be just in killing someone or unjust.

For example, a man charging someone with a knife to kill them is gunned down by a police officer.

This is not murder, or do you disagree?

How do you know if it is justified? Who decides?

@stellspalfie said
How do you know if it is justified? Who decides?

Depends who you are answering to at the moment, I believe we answer to man, and God. Being justified by one doesn't mean the other agrees.

@fmf said
I am aware of all that. And I am not asking you to compare anything. Nor am I seeking a debate about communists. You are an American Christian and I am asking you does the "Just War" designation cover, in your mind, the extraordinary number of civilians in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia that were killed by the U.S military?

It is something I struggle with. IF the number of people you save far surpass those who were killed, was it worth it?

What say you?

@whodey said
It is something I struggle with. IF the number of people you save far surpass those who were killed, was it worth it?

So you don't have an answer.

@stellspalfie said
How do you know if it is justified? Who decides?

God.