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Using the Bible to insult people

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Divegeester. Look.

I am explicitly not passing judgement.

By "meet" and "know" in the context of a forum I am talking in online terms. I have not to my knowledge interacted in any way with JosephW. However, from what I have seen and read, I do not believe that his meaning is as you and FMF are repeatedly interpreting it.

in any case, I have already said many times and in many ways that I do not see you as an enemy of God.

Are you going to insist yet again that I show "courage" and say what I have now already said so many times? Where does courage come into it? You actually owe me an apology for all that, you know.

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Originally posted by Startreader
However, from what I have seen and read, I do not believe that his meaning is as you and FMF are repeatedly interpreting it.
How do you ~ as a Christian ~ personally think the reference to "enmity against God" in James 4:4 applies to divegeester, if at all?

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What a strange fellow you are, to be sure.

It's your birthday. You know what they say about how you are on your birthday.

I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, doing my best to make allowances for whatever it is that makes you want to pick quarrels all over the place.

I hope you have a good birthday and enjoy it in your own inimitable way.

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Isn't 33 pages of going over the same ground, saying the same thing over and over again, enough for you? Demanding answers, failing to read them, demanding the same already-answered answers over and over again enough for you?

Do you call that debate? It bears no semblance to any form of debate elsewhere.

Extraordinary!

There's none so queer as folks!

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Originally posted by Startreader
I don't know what JosephW thinks. I haven't met him.
On page 10 you said this about josephw's citing of James 4:4...:

"During the course of this thread, and in its title, divegeester is insisting that JosephW somehow "used" the Bible to "insult" him. It seems not to occur to him that the Bible in itself cannot insult a person. What it does do is teach. Divegeester makes much of the fact that he is a Christian, but reading through his posts he seems to believe that this means he is beyond criticism."

What "criticism" ~ you mentioned it ~ did josephw intend?

Here is James 4:4 again:

"You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God."

You said divegeester "...seems to believe that [being a Christian] means he is beyond criticism". What valid "criticism" [during that General Forum banter] was josephw making by using James 4:4 in your opinion?

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Originally posted by Startreader
The Bible is for everyone everywhere and at all times. Particularly appropriate when used in talking to divegeester since he makes so much of the fact that he's a Christian. One would have thought he would welcome it.
Do you think James 4:4 is "particularly appropriate" when used in talking to divegeester?

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Originally posted by FMF
On page 10 you said this about josephw's citing of James 4:4...:

[b]"During the course of this thread, and in its title, divegeester is insisting that JosephW somehow "used" the Bible to "insult" him. It seems not to occur to him that the Bible in itself cannot insult a person. What it does do is teach. Divegeester makes much of the fact that he is a Christia ...[text shortened]... icism" [during that General Forum banter] was josephw making by using James 4:4 in your opinion?
Who knows?

Ask Joseph.

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you think James 4:4 is "particularly appropriate" when used in talking to divegeester?
Why would you think so?

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Originally posted by Startreader
Read [James 4:4] in context. We are each and all exhorted to "resist the devil". It applies to everyone.
Why didn't josephw cite it in a comment addressed to you if it also applies to you?

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Originally posted by FMF
Why didn't josephw cite it in a comment addressed to you if it also applies to you?
What?

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Originally posted by Startreader
Why would you think so?
Because every single time you were asked a question along the lines of 'How does James 4:4 apply to divegeester's quip in reply to Wolfgang59's quip on that General Forum thread? ' you dodged and dodged and dodged.

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Originally posted by Startreader
What?
The question is clear. I can't put it any more simply. Why didn't josephw cite it in a comment addressed to you if it also applies to you? You said James 4:4 applies to everyone. Doesn't "everyone" include you?

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Originally posted by Startreader
Read [James 4:4] in context. We are each and all exhorted to "resist the devil". It applies to everyone.
What was the "devil's" role or involvement on that General Forum thread and why did divegeester need to be reminded to "resist the devil" at that particular moment?

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