1. Subscriberjosephw
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    27 Nov '14 15:01
    I have a difficult enough of a time just moderating myself.

    How about just making a few simple rules like no name calling, no personal derisive remarks and staying on topic.

    The moderator could simply remove the offending post.
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    27 Nov '14 15:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    I have a difficult enough of a time just moderating myself.

    How about just making a few simple rules like no name calling, no personal derisive remarks and staying on topic.

    The moderator could simply remove the offending post.
    Well, the moderators can't remove posts. There's no way of doing it without the kind of access site admins have. Basically the posters would accept the ruling of the moderators.

    Moderators can't take part in the thread except to moderate, so I don't see any reason that you couldn't exercise the detachment needed to moderate a thread. What you've suggested is essentially the purpose of my list of 5 things the moderator can intervene on.
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    27 Nov '14 15:33
    Originally posted by divegeester
    This whole idea is misconceived; what are the moderation rules? What's to stop the usual suspects misbehaving as they usually do?
    I suggested a 5 point list in this companion thread, where the problem was discussed:Thread 161777
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    27 Nov '14 16:551 edit
    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Well, the moderators can't remove posts. There's no way of doing it without the kind of access site admins have. Basically the posters would accept the ruling of the moderators.

    Moderators can't take part in the thread except to moderate, so I don't see any reason that you couldn't exercise the detachment needed to moderate a thread. What you've suggested is essentially the purpose of my list of 5 things the moderator can intervene on.
    You're right. I see that.

    The only way, though, that I could moderate is during specified periods of time. I don't want to moderate. Seems too controlling for me. I'd rather see posters control themselves.

    Originally posted by black beetle
    Methinks the avoidance of excess or extremes, both in one’s behaviour and on political, religious, philosophical and any other opinions is supposed to be conducted by each poster according to the evaluation of the mind of each poster and within the rules of the site. To me, the final evaluation, if any, of each poster’s thesis and beliefs is to be done by each participant. I think that no other moderation is needed; if I conclude that a poster is a troll or derailed or gets out of bounds, I simply point out this conclusion of mine in the context of the thread or I simply don’t pay attention to his posts.
    😵
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    27 Nov '14 17:00
    Originally posted by CalJust
    I'm happy to assist in this experiment.

    My only condition would be that the [b]Frame of Reference
    of the debate be established first.

    (Edit: If both parties chose as their "Common Ground" logic and science, that would be ideal, but you will hardly find that on this Forum!)

    In other words, where is the common ground?

    In matters of doctrinal ...[text shortened]... ke any sense? Could one actually define such mutually acceptable parameters before a discussion?[/b]
    It amounts to

    According to my premises... my conclusion follows.

    My premises are truth...

    What premises support that claim...

    Leading to either infinite regress or circular reasoning.

    The idea of debate is doomed.
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    27 Nov '14 18:13
    Originally posted by josephw
    I have a difficult enough of a time just moderating myself.

    How about just making a few simple rules like no name calling, no personal derisive remarks and staying on topic.

    The moderator could simply remove the offending post.
    How difficult?


    A husband went to the police station to report his wife missing:
    Husband: I’ve lost my wife, she went shopping yesterday and has still not come home.
    Sergeant: What is her height?
    Husband: I really never noticed.
    Sergeant: Build?
    Husband: Not slim, not really fat.
    Sergeant: Colour of eyes?
    Husband: Never noticed.
    Sergeant: Colour of hair?
    Husband: Changes according to season.
    Sergeant: What was she wearing?
    Husband: Dress, suit, I don’t remember exactly.
    Sergeant: Did she go in a car?
    Husband: Yes.
    Sergeant: What kind of car was it?
    Husband: Black Audi A8 with super charged 3.0 liter V6 powerplant generating 333 PS with an 8-speed Triptonic automatic transmission with manual mode. And it has full LED headlights, which use light emitting diodes for all light functions and has a very thin scratch on the front left door… (at this point the husband started crying).
    Sergeant: Don't worry sir... We will find your car.
    😵
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    27 Nov '14 20:08
    Originally posted by black beetle
    How difficult?


    A husband went to the police station to report his wife missing:
    Husband: I’ve lost my wife, she went shopping yesterday and has still not come home.
    Sergeant: What is her height?
    Husband: I really never noticed.
    Sergeant: Build?
    Husband: Not slim, not really fat.
    Sergeant: Colour of eyes?
    Husband: Never noticed.
    Sergeant: ...[text shortened]... this point the husband started crying).
    Sergeant: Don't worry sir... We will find your car.
    😵
    Nice one centurion.
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    27 Nov '14 20:09
    Originally posted by black beetle
    How difficult?


    A husband went to the police station to report his wife missing:
    Husband: I’ve lost my wife, she went shopping yesterday and has still not come home.
    Sergeant: What is her height?
    Husband: I really never noticed.
    Sergeant: Build?
    Husband: Not slim, not really fat.
    Sergeant: Colour of eyes?
    Husband: Never noticed.
    Sergeant: ...[text shortened]... this point the husband started crying).
    Sergeant: Don't worry sir... We will find your car.
    😵
    🙂

    And I have a difficult enough of a time hearing what I sound like to others too. 😉
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    27 Nov '14 20:11
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And if Christians get bashed, they get bashed?

    Sorry, count me out.
    There is only one accused "Christian basher" here and I never "bash" you. Maybe you are referring to someone else?
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    27 Nov '14 20:131 edit
    Originally posted by black beetle
    How difficult?


    A husband went to the police station to report his wife missing:
    Husband: I’ve lost my wife, she went shopping yesterday and has still not come home.
    Sergeant: What is her height?
    Husband: I really never noticed.
    Sergeant: Build?
    Husband: Not slim, not really fat.
    Sergeant: Colour of eyes?
    Husband: Never noticed.
    Sergeant: ...[text shortened]... this point the husband started crying).
    Sergeant: Don't worry sir... We will find your car.
    😵
    Couldn't stop myself from laughing at this :]
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    27 Nov '14 20:36
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Nice one centurion.
    It's always fine on the beach with beloved😵
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    27 Nov '14 20:38
    Originally posted by josephw
    🙂

    And I have a difficult enough of a time hearing what I sound like to others too. 😉
    OK. But the word is still "Theopneustos", don't spell it the wrong way😵
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    27 Nov '14 20:38
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Couldn't stop myself from laughing at this :]
    Yes, R8 are so precious😵
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    27 Nov '14 21:07
    Originally posted by black beetle
    It's always fine on the beach with beloved😵
    When one is spending a significant time in here it is always good to be reminded of the good things in real life 🙂
  15. Standard memberblack beetle
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    27 Nov '14 21:45
    Originally posted by divegeester
    When one is spending a significant time in here it is always good to be reminded of the good things in real life 🙂
    Sure thing😵
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