@sonship saidTo show genuine empathy you 'have' to stand in someone else's shoes. Why that escapes you is beyond me. You 'have' to see things as the person themselves see things to understand their mindset. So far you haven't demonstrated you can do that, which is to your own detriment.
@Ghost-of-a-DukeThat is 'not' standing in someone else's shoes sonship. You paint a picture of pure fantasy where victims of rape and genocide are one dimensional and will accommodatingly forget about the trauma they have suffered and the loved ones they have lost and welcome your God with open arms.
1.) This comment and the - standing in another sho ...[text shortened]... hat I could not identify with those conquered by another people. You don't know that much about me.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
I don't think that you always have to have the exact same experience with the exact same details of that experience to have empathy with someone.
Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner
also : the capacity for this
2 : the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it
From Marriam - Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
@sonship said'Standing in someone's shoes' enables the understanding your dictionary describes.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
I don't think that you always have to have the exact same experience with the exact same details of that experience to have empathy with someone.Definition of empathy
1 : the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the p ...[text shortened]... ed with it
From Marriam - Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
You are never going to have the exact same experiences as someone else, but trying to put yourself in their position will give you valuable insight and prevent your frequent embarrassments.
@sonship saidFrequent embarrassments include:
@Ghost-of-a-Dukebut trying to put yourself in their position will give you valuable insight and prevent your frequent embarrassments.
"Frequent embarrassments" in the wishful thinking of your imagination ? I'm a bit embarrassed for you right now.
1. Your flippant approach to suicide which God has apparently made obsolete.
2. That making a girl marry her rapist is a divine remedy.
3. That a girl traumatized would have welcomed your God with open arms.
(The above list is not exhaustive).
Frequent embarrassments include:
1. Your flippant approach to suicide which God has apparently made obsolete.
I tried to explain to you. That you didn't comprehend is not an embarrassment to me. In fact I empathize with you not being able at this time to see it.
2. That making a girl marry her rapist is a divine remedy.
She didnt marry her rapist. That was the point.
She WASN'T RAPED.
That's the accusation Duchess64 reads into the text.
3. That a girl traumatized would have welcomed your God with open arms.
Those are your words.
I said many of them must have realized life with Israel would be better then life in Canaanite society. Not everybody wanted their children sacrificed to Molech or brought up to be temple prostitutes of pagan demon gods.
Sonship has apparently implied that a young 'spared virgin' who was traumatized
by the recent murders of her loved ones would have welcomed the men ...
I assume the law for captive females gave weeping and traumatized survivors a month to be left alone to mourn.
When you go out to fight against your enemies and Jehovah your God delivers them into your hands and you take them captive,
And you see a beautiful woman among the captives and desire her and would take her to yourself as a wife;
You shall bring her within your house, and she shall shave her head, trim her nails, and take her clothes of captivity away from her.
And she shall dwell in your house and mourn her father and mother for a full month. And afterward you shall go in unto her and be her husband, and she shall be a wife to you.
(Deut. 21:10-13)
The fact that it says "And afterwards you shall go in unto her" indicates to me that she is in some solitude and not to be bothered for that period.
Of age girls I would expect to have been shown this custom of the people according to their law.
Since we are going around in circles now and a new Bible War Crime has not yet been submitted, I am going to spend some time on the awfulness of Canaanite society.
On the side: Pro Choice is ok with me as a law of a modern society. However awareness that abortion is not as GOOD of a choice, as some make it out to be, should accompany the freedom of choice.
Too many are painting a too rosy picture of the effect of a woman terminating the life she is carrying in her womb.
Some of the selective outrage expressed here though is hypocritical.
By reading what God instructs the Israelites they are NOT to practice, we get a clear picture of what WERE the customs of the Canaanite societies.
When God spoke to Abraham at the time of Genesis 15 He indicated that the downward decline of those nations was in place. Yet they had not gotten bad enough yet for God to judge them. He said in another 400 years of downward degradation their iniquities would no longer be tolerated.
The four hundred years passed and another forty years of the Israelites wandering in the wilderness preparing to enter into the land gave those woman, children, and repentant ones among them time to get out of those societies.
And He said to Abram, Know assuredly that your seed will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and they will serve them; and they will afflict them four hundred years.
But I will also judge that nation, whom they will serve, and afterward they will come out with great possessions.
But as for you, you will go to your fathers in peace; you will be buried in a good old age. And in the fourth generation they will come here again,
for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete. (Gen. 15:13-16)
What was it that God was tolerating that was getting worse and worse and worse ?