@lemondrop saidAs long as there are people alive who believe in them, then any and all deities continue to "exist" in the same way - and to the same degree - as they always have done.
from my understanding
the Hebrew God was one of many
and a minor god at that
Gods are just manifestations of human conjecture ~ refined and amplified by culture ~ regarding the nature of a creator being.
And yet, their feelings of certainty aside - humans don't even know for sure if there is a creator being.
The tireless - and perhaps species-defining - speculation about it has given rise to untold numbers of Gods down through human history.
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from my understanding
the Hebrew God was one of many
and a minor god at that
Your understanding I think would improve if you actually read the Hebrew Bible for yourself.
Where do you get the impression that Yahweh was just one of the minor gods among many?
It sounds like you didn't read the Hebrew Bible or didn't pay attention.
Somebody came along who you deemed smart about it perhaps, and you just heard from them Jehovah was just a run of the mill god and Israel knew that?
The book of Deuteronomy said the backslidden Israelites who imitated the Canaanites sacrificed their children not to gods but to demons.
Deuteronomy 32:17 - They sacrificed to demons, not to God, to gods they had not known, to newly arrived gods, which your fathers did not fear. They sacrificed to false gods, which are not God-- gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your ancestors did not fear.
@sonship saidthere were other gods?
@lemondrop
from my understanding
the Hebrew God was one of many
and a minor god at that
Your understanding I think would improve if you actually read the Hebrew Bible for yourself.
Where do you get the impression that Yahweh was just one of the minor gods among many?
It sounds like you didn't read the Hebrew Bible or didn't pay atten ...[text shortened]... t God-- gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your ancestors did not fear. [/b]
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Other gods were mentioned.
Philistines had a god.
Egyptians had gods.
The Assyrians, Medo-Perssians, and Babylonians had gods.
etc. etc.
Yes gods are mentioned.
If you read through you'll see eventually it is revealed that they were demonic
spirits as I showed you in Deut. 32:17.
How curious are you really?
Have you read say Genesis through Joshua or Judges perhaps?
You can get CDS and have it read TO you say while you drive on a long trip.
Read it or listen for yourself.
@sonship saidthe bible is such terrible literature
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Other gods were mentioned.
Philistines had a god.
Egyptians had gods.
The Assyrians, Medo-Perssians, and Babylonians had gods.
etc. etc.
Yes gods are mentioned.
If you read through you'll see eventually it is revealed that they were demonic
spirits as I showed you in Deut. 32:17.
How curious are you really?
...[text shortened]... S and have it read TO you say while you drive on a long trip.
Read it or listen for yourself.
no eloquence
reading or listening puts me to sleep
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Other gods and idols were mentioned in the Old Testament for sure.
Then we have Jehovah speaking through the prophet Isaiah about His uniqueness.
"Thus says Jehovah the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts,
I am the First and I am the Last,
And apart from Me there is no God . . . and you are My witnesses, Is there a God besides Me? Or is there any other Rock? I do not know of any." (Isa. 44:6,8)
"Thus says Jehovah who redeemed you and formed you from the womb, I am Jehovah who makes all things, Who alone stretches out the heavens, Who spread out the earth (Who was with Me?); (Isa. 44:23)
"I am Jehovah and there is no one else.; Besides Me there is no God . . . There is no one besides Me. I am Jehovah and there is no one else. " (See Isa. 45:5-7)
"Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, whom I called;
I am the First, and I am also the Last. Indeed, My hand laid the foundations of the earth . . . " (Isa. 48:12)
The nations had idols who were not gods. Behind the idols they made were deceiving and demonic spirits of Satan.
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Many people do not agree with you. And not just Christians.
The book of Job has been described as the greatest poetry ever written.
The Gospel of Luke has been described as the most beautiful book ever
written.
I think something else may be going on with you rather than boredom.
I think perhaps other reasons beside esthetics have you padlock closed your
heart to the Bible.
Ecclesiastes by Solomon as eloquently about the vanity and futility of the world as much as anything you find from Buddhist writing imo.
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Name one other book ever written like the first 11 chapters of the book of Genesis. NAMES please so we can compare.
There are more critical things about human existence, origins, meanings, purposes, in the first 11 chapters of Genesis then you can find in any other ancient writing so economically expressed. Get me the same number of words in some other writing telling the world SO MUCH about crucial origins of things as Genesis 1 - 11.
Can you quote a book from ancient times which describes the Creator of the universe as thoroughly OUTSIDE of time and space as is spoken in Genesis 1:1?
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
Where is Buddhism is an equivalent statement so completely making a separation and distinction of God or any oversoul or source FROM the universe? I mean thoroughly transcendent to the entire realm of time, space, matter, and energy.
Your next post, I hope, will submit such a statement from Buddhist literature (which admittedly can be beautiful) having the Source of the universe so transcendent FROM it entirely and completely.
Go.
@lemondrop saidOoh er, mmm, not sure that's true.
the bible is such terrible literature
no eloquence
@sonship saidSounds a bit like you're saying Buddhism isn't right because it is different from your religion.
Where is Buddhism is an equivalent statement so completely making a separation and distinction of God or any oversoul or source FROM the universe? I mean thoroughly transcendent to the entire realm of time, space, matter, and energy.
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lemondrop,
I'm hoping to hear from you.
The life and words of Jesus Christ bore you too much?
A couple of us on the planet see it differently?
How come the New Testament is the most widely translated book in history?
That's peculiar for a boring book don't you think?