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    The perception of existence optimistic theists desire to maintain will surely expire when the brain stops functioning and receiving/processing inputs from our decaying sensory organs. We won't have any capacity to experience or care about it.
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    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Which yoga(s) do you primarily follow?
    Bhakti yoga, because its the top most and the only worthwhile one.

    vishva
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    Originally posted by Agerg
    The perception of existence optimistic theists desire to maintain will surely expire when the brain stops functioning and receiving/processing inputs from our decaying sensory organs. We won't have any capacity to experience or care about it.
    Does "WE" mean the uneducated, uninlightened, atheistic types, who are envious of God?

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    Originally posted by divegeester
    The Vedanta teachings are the souce of all spiritual and religious teachings

    says who?


    I ask everyone to at least look at them, and study them for at least 12mths

    A year! Are you serious, just abandon current studies fro a year?
    (says who)

    The Vedanta teacings will reveal themselves, you just have to apply yourself.

    Everyone can google Veadanta and explore every night for one hour, gosh you spend more than one hour denying God in this forum every night.

    But remember to have an open mind, because a fault finding attitude will not reveal anything.

    vishva
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    25 Sep '10 01:391 edit
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Does "WE" mean the uneducated, uninlightened, atheistic types, who are envious of God?

    vishva
    *facepalm* not that i want to engage with you on the trading of insults right now but...atheists envious of god???
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    25 Sep '10 01:411 edit
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Bhakti yoga, because its the top most and the only worthwhile one.

    vishva
    That's interesting. How did you come to that conclusion?

    Seemed to me that in order to become one with Brahman one must adopt jnana yoga, though the other yogas may be useful as stepping stones. I asked a Swami and he concurred.
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    25 Sep '10 03:25
    Originally posted by realeyez
    Im just asking, learning the opinions of my fellow chess players. I believe in Heaven and Hell. I also realize that not everyone agrees with me. So what are your thoughts. I not here to debate or defend my beliefs, just good ol' curiousity.
    Why not ask someone who has died? His name is Jesus Christ!! 😵
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    25 Sep '10 05:52
    Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
    In the Holy Bible (KJ orig. ~only~) it is written "Heaven cometh not by observation, but is WITHIN you" (anyone whoso desires to seek).
    Heaven is the ACTUALITY to everything, being God IS Heaven, and there IS NO spot where HE (Our Father Mother God Good) is not, for HE IS what Life is, that being LOVE, INTELLIGENCE, STRENGTH, the defining of these wo ...[text shortened]... l be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
    end of quote
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    25 Sep '10 07:001 edit
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    That's interesting. How did you come to that conclusion?

    Seemed to me that in order to become one with Brahman one must adopt jnana yoga, though the other yogas may be useful as stepping stones. I asked a Swami and he concurred.
    Jnana yoga is the stepping stone, because when you become situated in knowledge through the process of Jnana, you realize with the knowledge youve aquired that the goal of life is to love God with pure devotion, ....and since bhakti is the path of devotion it must be the top most.

    Vedanta is full of jnana, in fact the principles are so lofty that that they are always directing the student towards Bhakti.

    If one follows Jnana yoga, and doesnt move into Bhakti, then the Jnana is not serving its purpose.

    The svami you speak of is an impersonalist, and merging with Brahman you can do, but that is not the higheast truth.

    The highest truth is to have a loving relationship with God on a personal basis, and in the spiritual dimension there are unlimited spiritual activities to engage in this loving relationship.

    Visva
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    25 Sep '10 07:021 edit
    Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
    end of quote
    Yes, this is spiritual knowledge.......I like it.

    vishva
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    25 Sep '10 07:11
    Originally posted by Agerg
    *facepalm* not that i want to engage with you on the trading of insults right now but...atheists envious of god???
    Well I dont accept that a person is an atheist because of conclusive proof they have, that God doesnt exist,.....so by default they must have some envy towards God.

    vishva
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    25 Sep '10 09:00
    Originally posted by darvlay
    How is that internet porn course going for you anyway?
    I jacked it in.
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    25 Sep '10 09:094 edits
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    (says who)

    The Vedanta teacings will reveal themselves, you just have to apply yourself.

    Everyone can google Veadanta and explore every night for one hour, gosh you spend more than one hour denying God in this forum every night.

    But remember to have an open mind, because a fault finding attitude will not reveal anything.

    vishva
    To be honest I don't even know why I responded to you in the first place, the majority of your posts are just pot shots at Christianity whilst blowing some mystical trumpet (Vedanta) of ultimate piece and all spiritual knowledge we can all find on google but apparently won't make any sense anyway!

    The goal of Vedanta is a state of self-realization or cosmic consciousness. Historically and currently, it is assumed that this state can be experienced by anyone, but it cannot be adequately conveyed in language
    Wikipedia

    at least you won't be trying to sell us any books...
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    25 Sep '10 09:47
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    Well I dont accept that a person is an atheist because of conclusive proof they have, that God doesnt exist,.....so by default they must have some envy towards God.

    vishva
    This argument is unsound in my view.
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