@secondson said
Try to stay focused. I merely made a generalized statement about defining what a Christian is. Simply and straightforwardly, a Christian is one who believes God.

It starts there.

Do you accept the definition laid out in the OP?

All theist religionists "believe God".

@secondson said
Succinctness is clarity.

You haven't provided "clarity". Instead of defining "a Christian", you've written a definition that fits any number of religions and their Gods, including those worshipped by Jews and Muslims.

@fmf said
I cannot see how one can define a Christian ~ even succinctly ~ without reference to Jesus Christ.

You cannot see? Obviously.

As long as you believe that you get to "define" the terms you never will "see".

Nine times you used the term "Christian" in your OP. Did you forget the title you gave this thread?

Quit quibbling.

@secondson said
.It starts there.

THe question is: Can one seriously define what a Christian is without reference to Jesus?

Eladar has done so.

I say one cannot.

Suzianne says she cannot.

Can you?

@secondson said
Nine times you used the term "Christian" in your OP. Did you forget the title you gave this thread?

Do you agree with the five core beliefs that I listed in the OP to define a Christian?

@fmf said
All theist religionists "believe God".

There is only one God.

Not all "theist religionist" believe God.

@fmf said
You haven't provided "clarity". Instead of defining "a Christian", you've written a definition that fits any number of religions and their Gods, including those worshipped by Jews and Muslims.

Again I remind you of the title of this thread.

@secondson said
.As long as you believe that you get to "define" the terms you never will "see".

There is nothing wrong with defining "a Christian" and so differentiate them from other theists. Unless you think there is - do you?

@secondson said
How many Gods do you think there are?

Many.

Way to go with avoiding the question...

@secondson said
Again I remind you of the title of this thread.

Yes I know. "What is a Christian?" A Christian is someone who holds the five core beliefs mentioned in the OP. Do you not agree?

@fmf said
THe question is: Can one seriously define what a Christian is without reference to Jesus?

Eladar has done so.

I say one cannot.

Suzianne says she cannot.

Can you?

The reference to Jesus Christ is in the title of this thread.

You're quibbling.

@secondson said
There is only one God.

Not all "theist religionist" believe God.

There are dozens of gods.

@fmf said
Yes I know. "What is a Christian?" A Christian is someone who holds the five core beliefs mentioned in the OP. Do you not agree?

It appears that SecondSon does not want to answer your question.

@secondson said
There is only one God.

Not all "theist religionist" believe God.

So you say. But the ridiculously "succinct" definition of "a Christian" applies to any number of religions whose adherents believe "there is only one God".

@secondson said
The reference to Jesus Christ is in the title of this thread.

Do you accept the five core beliefs in the OP that define "a Christian"?