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I hear a lot of talk about the "soul" but I still don't understand what it is supposed to be. Is it distinct from the "spirit", whatever that is, and the mind? Are spirit and mind distinct from one another?
Originally posted by AThousandYoung1 Thessalonians 5:23
I hear a lot of talk about the "soul" but I still don't understand what it is supposed to be. Is it distinct from the "spirit", whatever that is, and the mind? Are spirit and mind distinct from one another?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI think that a key point here is that any intellectual answer you get to this question is going to simply be someone's belief system, most typically in the form of a scripture, or in the form of defence of scientific materialism (there is no soul, etc.).
I hear a lot of talk about the "soul" but I still don't understand what it is supposed to be. Is it distinct from the "spirit", whatever that is, and the mind? Are spirit and mind distinct from one another?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungSee the thread list "Where do souls come from.:🙂
I hear a lot of talk about the "soul" but I still don't understand what it is supposed to be. Is it distinct from the "spirit", whatever that is, and the mind? Are spirit and mind distinct from one another?
Originally posted by KellyJaySo, according to Thessalonians and Hebrews, there is something called a "soul" and something called a "spirit". They are distinct from one another and from the body. All three belong to the individual ( "you" ) and all are capable of some sort of "blame".
1 Thessalonians 5:23
May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges ...[text shortened]... re they are not the same thing. I'm not sure
I can define them well, maybe another can.
Kelly
What does it mean for one to "live after death" since apparently the body is dead and the soul ceases to exist when that happens? Does this have something to do with the "spirit"?[/b]No, Here is where I part company from traditional Christianity....
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI'll tell you what I think; soul is our inner makeup, our life. the essence
I hear a lot of talk about the "soul" but I still don't understand what it is supposed to be. Is it distinct from the "spirit", whatever that is, and the mind? Are spirit and mind distinct from one another?
Originally posted by checkbaiterThank you for your perspective, cb.
No, Here is where I part company from traditional Christianity....
The bible nowhere claims "to live after death".
According to my understanding of the bible, when a person dies, and this applies to christian or non Christian, his breath life(soul) dies.
It has nothing to do with spirit. Spirit is difficult to define. It is not a conscience, nor th ...[text shortened]... hus we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
(NKJ)
Originally posted by KellyJay...soul is our inner makeup, our life.
I'll tell you what I think; soul is our inner makeup, our life. the essence
of what we are, our true selves, while spirit is the spark of life that is
us. I'm sure others may have a different view but this is always what I
thought about those two words, if it makes sense.
Kelly
Originally posted by MetamorphosisThat's the whole point I was stressing. When it comes to something as profound as your own spiritual nature, no one can truly enable you to understand this matter; they can only offer viewpoints.
Metamorphosis in no way helped me understand what a "soul" is.
That's the whole point I was stressing. When it comes to something as profound as your own spiritual nature, no one can truly enable you to understand this matter; they can only offer viewpoints.
Direct inquiry...of who?
Of you.
"Directly looking with f belief, or skepticism, there is a third approach, that of direct inquiry into your own nature.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWait, so are "soul" and "spiritual nature" related? Does this mean "soul" and "spirit" are related?
[b]That's the whole point I was stressing. When it comes to something as profound as your own spiritual nature, no one can truly enable you to understand this matter; they can only offer viewpoints.
Wait, so are "soul" and "spiritual nature" related? Does this mean "soul" and "spirit" are related?
You say no one can help me u ...[text shortened]... and phrases that may be meaningless. You may not be aware that you are doing this, but you are.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI believe our true lives are within our flesh, not the flesh itself. but our
[b]...soul is our inner makeup, our life.
Can you elaborate? Soul = bodily life seems to be what cb suggested, so that I understand, but what is this "inner makeup"?
the essence of what we are, our true selves
This makes no sense to me. Can you elaborate on this too?
...spirit is the spark of life that is us
This also makes no sense to me.[/b]
Originally posted by KellyJayI guess I have not given this much thought, because now I want to
I believe our true lives are within our flesh, not the flesh itself. but our
soul, our heart, our true selves. Our soul is our true nature, it isn't
what people think about us, and I would even put forward it isn't even
what we think about ourselves either. I believe God sees it, but we
tend to think more highly of ourselves than we should, and others ...[text shortened]... 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaySo Dolphins must have souls then, right? And the great apes
I guess I have not given this much thought, because now I want to
reverse myself. As I described the spirit I now want to say that is the
soul, and as I was describing the soul I want to say that is really the
way the spirit works instead.
Reason being when God breathed into Adam, it was said that Adam
became a living soul, and throughout the NT it tal ...[text shortened]... ife, and our spirits are our driving force within us causing us to
behave the way we do.
Kelly