@rajk999 said
Who is the cherry picker now. Paul explains what is saved, and what is inheritance in the kingdom of God. Two different things. You choose the easy doctrine, that makes you feel nice and warm inside.

@divegeester said
Salvation: eternal life is FREE, it is a “gift of God” received through faith.

@divegeester said
I’m not answering for SecondSon, just putting my two penny worth in.

Salvation: eternal life is FREE, it is a “gift of God” received through faith. It is accompanied by an ongoing, and also a periodic filling of the spirit. Scripture calls this “power”. It is power to overcome the carnal instincts and it is accessed through faith. This is scripturally sound.
...[text shortened]... I do this, it’s a sorry situation. But the sorry situation does not mean that the doctrine is wrong.

@rajk999 said
You can twist and turn it all you like and quote Paul, and whoever, and mix up the terms saved and eternal life all you like. In the end the passage in Matt 25 where Jesus is judging there are only two outcomes:
- eternal life in the Kingdom of God for those who do good works
- damnation for those who do not do good works.

This is the word of God, explained to you in ...[text shortened]... as a 'sorry situation'. Jesus and Paul said no such thing and said it plainly .. they are cast out.

@divegeester said
I have no belief in a literal hell, damnation or otherwise.

I’m content that we disagree but stand firm that you cannot refute my “favourite” (sic) scriptures.

@rajk999 said
Here is one of my favourite scriptures

.. every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. (Ecclesiastes 3:13 KJV)

Eat drink and be merry. It is the gift of God. BUT ... I will be a damn fool to think that gift of God [just like salvation], alone will get me into the Kingdom of God. There are other things to be done.

@divegeester said
I’m fine with you rejecting the scripture I gave you, really I am.

@rajk999 said
Not only me. Jesus and all the Apostles rejects that scripture if it is taken out of context.

@divegeester said
Wow, now you’ve spoken to Jesus and his apostles!

Christian = a follower of Jesus Christ, who thinks most other followers are doing it wrong.

@bigdoggproblem said
Christian = a follower of Jesus Christ, who thinks most other followers are doing it wrong.

@bigdoggproblem said
Christian = a follower of Jesus Christ, who thinks most other followers are doing it wrong.

@fmf said
I have to believe that divegeester's God figure exists in order to experience everlasting life?

@rajk999 said
No. Jesus and the Apostles speaks to us.

@bigdoggproblem said
Christian = a follower of Jesus Christ, who thinks most other followers are doing it wrong.