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    20 Sep '17 11:44
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    Relationships that are built upon love yeah?
    If this is your suggested alternative title for the article found at the link, then you should probably not word it as a question.
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    20 Sep '17 12:19
    Originally posted by @great-king-rat
    These definitions of "love" all use the word "love" to define "love" :/

    Talk about a "piss poor job".
    There should obviously be a distinction between the kind of love someone would have for their wife compared to the love they have for their dog.
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    20 Sep '17 12:37
    Originally posted by @black-beetle
    I want to keep it simple assuming you merely ended up a bit stranded whilst struggling to cope with Greek (my apologies apathist, I know the thread derails from your OP).
    Here you go whodey -my translation of the expert I submit ref. 1a, 1b and 2a. Source link: http://www.greek-language.gr/greekLang/modern_greek/tools/lexica/triantafyllides/search.htm ...[text shortened]... d’s love “en Christo” (in Christ), evident at Rom. 5:5, 5:8 and 8:39.

    Now what, whodey?

    😵
    When Christ was asked to give an example of agape love he used the parable of the Good Samaritan.

    In it, there is no dialogue between the two strangers.
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    20 Sep '17 13:01
    Originally posted by @whodey
    When Christ was asked to give an example of agape love he used the parable of the Good Samaritan.

    In it, there is no dialogue between the two strangers.
    Interesting😵
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    20 Sep '17 13:48
    Originally posted by @black-beetle
    Interesting😵
    So what opportunity did the Good Samaritan have to "like" the wounded Jew who should have been his natural enemy?
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    20 Sep '17 17:13
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So what opportunity did the Good Samaritan have to "like" the wounded Jew who should have been his natural enemy?
    The Jew was a stranger to him and the good Samaritan was merely demonstrating kindness to someone in need. Saying he was his 'natural enemy' didn't automatically make him such. Indeed, would he have so readily given assistance if the man had previously done something to make a true enemy out of him?
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    20 Sep '17 19:00
    Originally posted by @great-king-rat
    Apathist, in reply to your PM, here are some further musings of mine on the subject of "Love - What Is It?"

    I hope this will my initial post more understandable.

    What is love?
    Baby don't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more

    Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me
    No more
    What is love?
    Yeah

    I don't know why you're not fair
    I give you my love, bu ...[text shortened]... n't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more

    Baby don't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more
    What is love?
    Burn.
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    20 Sep '17 23:24
    What is love?

    Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no mo'.
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    20 Sep '17 23:571 edit
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    The Jew was a stranger to him and the good Samaritan was merely demonstrating kindness to someone in need. Saying he was his 'natural enemy' didn't automatically make him such. Indeed, would he have so readily given assistance if the man had previously done something to make a true enemy out of him?
    The northern kingdom, the Samaritans, and Southern kingdom, represented by the man lay dying, did not get along. They split and fought for years.

    Jesus intentionally used this in the parable for this very reason.

    Again, "liking them" has nothing to do with it.
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    21 Sep '17 00:20
    Originally posted by @great-king-rat
    Apathist, in reply to your PM, here are some further musings of mine on the subject of "Love - What Is It?"

    I hope this will my initial post more understandable.

    What is love?
    Baby don't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more

    Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me
    No more
    What is love?
    Yeah

    I don't know why you're not fair
    I give you my love, bu ...[text shortened]... n't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more

    Baby don't hurt me
    Don't hurt me
    No more
    What is love?
    Guess I was too late.
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    21 Sep '17 06:51
    Originally posted by @whodey
    So what opportunity did the Good Samaritan have to "like" the wounded Jew who should have been his natural enemy?
    Methinks it's a case of respect and compassion;
    😵
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    21 Sep '17 08:251 edit
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    The atheist cannot understand agape because they conflate it with eros.
    Just when I think you can't be any more of a fool you go and prove me wrong.

    edit - but I still love you, albeit probably in a way you don't understand
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    21 Sep '17 09:08
    Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
    Just when I think you can't be any more of a fool you go and prove me wrong.

    edit - but I still love you, albeit probably in a way you don't understand
    Meanwhile, on the "insanity of faith" thread, you've got whodey wittering on about how he apparently believes the capacity to be kind to enemies is only possible because of "a supernatural thing" connected to the god figure he just so happens to believe in.
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    21 Sep '17 09:53
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Meanwhile, on the "insanity of faith" thread, you've got whodey wittering on about how he apparently believes the capacity to be kind to enemies is only possible because of "a supernatural thing" connected to the god figure he just so happens to believe in.
    Funny how the word love gets used and yet people do not agree upon its definition.
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    21 Sep '17 09:59
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Funny how the word love gets used and yet people do not agree upon its definition.
    Well, if you are referring to my comment about whodey, I have been careful to use his use of the words "to be kind to" as a synonym for "love".
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