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@philokalia saidPunished by whom and for what purpose?
We aren't talking about whether or not LIFE IS LIKE PLAYING WITH A KNIFE, we are talking about how a person gets unintended results from their actions which is them being punished by their own poor choices and actions.
@philokalia said"Mr. Bigbrain"? What are you on about?
O Mr. Bigbrain, tell me how I'm feeble minded if this appeals to me, lol.
@philokalia saidBut he is sent to gaol by a judge, right?
When a criminal commits a crime and is sent to jail, he isn't sent to jail by the judge for some arbitrary reason. He has committed a crime. He has sent himself to jail.
If there is no one who is going to send me to a "Hell", what do I have to worry about?
If your God figure is the "judge" and intends to send me to the place called "Hell" that he created in order to inflict neverending pain and issue a "reprimand" why is all this being kept essentially secret from me? You asserting that all these things are true does not seem credible. All you are doing is talking about superstitious notions that appeal to your imagination. So the reality of it remains basically a secret.
@philokalia saidI'll ask again, intellectually speaking, does your cut-by-a-knife analogy work on you?
Just as such, the carelessness of one's actions results in cutting yourself while cutting something else.
How is this a silly comparison?
@philokalia saidI don't seek to divest you of what you believe. I'm just giving you the opportunity to make a morally coherent case for tormenting someone in burning flames for eternity for thoughtcrimes. You don't seem able to.
You don't mount effective arguments at what I'm saying and instead make category errors while we debate.
@philokalia saidLiving my life is not analogous to slicing food ingredients.
Second, do people cut themselves while slicing food ingredients?
@philokalia saidI am not driving a car. And I am not drunk. My life is not like driving a car drunk. I am not going to choose to have myself sent to "Hell" to be tormented - by nobody and for no reason - in burning flames for eternity.
Do people kill themselves while drunk driving?
@fmf saidDude, it's about how you can incur unintended consequences through your actions.
I am not driving a car. And I am not drunk. My life is not like driving a car drunk. I am not going to choose to have myself sent to "Hell" to be tormented - by nobody and for no reason - in burning flames for eternity.
@philokalia saidNo, I don't. At least, no one has given me a credible reason to believe I do. And that includes you. Your assertion does me no harm though. You don't have an immortal soul. When you die, that will be the end of you ~ whether you recognize it or not, as you say. My assertion is doing you no harm.
You have an immortal soul whether you recognize it or not.