What is the point of God today?

@fmf said
The discussion is about faith, marriage, reconciliation, the threat of death, the hope for eternal life, and the role of God in all this.

Things you know all about.

@josephw said
Things you know all about.

Just sharing my perspectives. That's all we do here.

@josephw said
There's not a conversation known to man I'm afraid to talk about.

You are arguably the biggest conversational coward on this forum, constantly running away in a cloud of vacuous banter and silly swaggering non-sequiturs.

@josephw said
Stop trying to squeeze me into your little boxed in world.

You are in the Bumpkin/Blowhard box.

@fmf said
Just sharing my perspectives. That's all we do here.

All we do here is share your perspectives??!

I feel marginalized. 😂

@fmf said
You are arguably the biggest conversational coward on this forum, constantly running away in a cloud of vacuous banter and silly swaggering non-sequiturs.

Okay

@fmf said
You are in the Bumpkin/Blowhard box.

If you say so.

@fmf said
Reconciliation.

Right and why are you trying to achieve it?

You have no answer?

@fmf said
I don't think I do.

The fact that I would NOT think trying to reconcile with a spouse, with the only two days we have left, was "pointless", reflects on my character.

And the fact that you WOULD think trying to reconcile with a spouse during those last two days was "pointless", reflects on yours.

You’re misrepresenting my position. I’m a believer. In my case, and in the case of all believers, I don’t think it’s pointless at all.

I’m asking you, as an atheist, what the point is.

So far you have not given an answer.

@pb1022 said
Now who’s moving the goalposts?

I originally said for a believer *who did not have the hope of eternal life* but did have God’s help in daily living and the peace that passes all understanding to ask for God’s help in repairing a broken marriage would seem pointless because that believer could die an hour later.

That somehow morphed into me dehumanizing atheists.

A final hour of peace that surpasses all understanding, and being reconciled to one’s wife in the last hour of one’s life, seems to me to be a highly desirable state in which to die, even if there is no afterdeath.

@moonbus said
A final hour of peace that surpasses all understanding, and being reconciled to one’s wife in the last hour of one’s life, seems to me to be a highly desirable state in which to die, even if there is no afterdeath.

I personally don’t think it’s possible for an atheist to have or attain a peace that surpasses all understanding because such peace is supernatural and not dependent on circumstances.

But I get and appreciate your other point.

@pb1022 said
I personally don’t think it’s possible for an atheist to have or attain a peace that surpasses all understanding because such peace is supernatural and not dependent on circumstances.

But I get and appreciate your other point.

You just haven't met the right person yet. You are quite right that this state is not dependent on circumstances; it is attained through hard work. Of all the people I have ever known in my life, the only ones who attained genuine and steady (not momentary) peace were Buddhist monks. (I spent some time in a monastery.) I have read some Christian authors who may have attained it (Thomas Merton, for example).

@pb1022 said
So far you have not given an answer.

I have.

@pb1022 said
Right and why are you trying to achieve it?

I have already said. It was in the next post. The post you are ignoring.