What is TRUTH in the Bible?

Originally posted by RJHinds
We both have the Holy Bible to gain information about Christ if we
will read it. I also have the Holy Spirit to teach me. However, He
is also available to you, if you will listen. So, I have no source of
information that you can not also have. Perhaps, you are making
reference to some special commentary on the life of Jesus, but
they are available t ...[text shortened]... e that wishes to have them. So I do
not have any idea what source I have that you don't have.

A very good answer. Thank you.

I was just aiming towards the fact that we don't know very much about Jesus Christ. Do we even know his true name?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
And yet we know so little about him.

We know enough.

Originally posted by Suzianne
We know enough.

Enough? So little information of a person Christians call the son of God and worship as he would be a god himself, the very same man the Muslims call the most prominent Prophet of the whole world and in the entire history of man, the one the Jews denies altogether, and you call it enough? Enough? And his proper name is not even known. Doesn't it take more than that?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
And yet we know so little about him.

Speak for yourself fab. It's not about quantity anyway. It's about knowing Him to begin with. It's about what one knows about Jesus, and not how much.

Originally posted by josephw
Speak for yourself fab. It's not about quantity anyway. It's about [b]knowing Him to begin with. It's about what one knows about Jesus, and not how much.[/b]

It's about what you know about Jesus? Then what do you know? Skip the hearsay, just give me the facts.
First - what was his real name?

Originally posted by galveston75
John 4:23-24
New Living Translation (NLT)

23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

What is the "truth" the Bible speaks of?

My posts are too long. And everyone wants a short little chat room reply which only takes two seconds to glance at and read.

So the subject is interesting. But who wants to read any in depth discussion ?

Originally posted by jaywill
My posts are too long. And everyone wants a short little chat room reply which only takes two seconds to glance at and read.

So the subject is interesting. But who wants to read any in depth discussion ?

Your posts are usually excellent imo; agreed they are often a bit long for some in this forum, which may result in people 'skim-reading' them.

Originally posted by divegeester
Your posts are usually excellent imo; agreed they are often a bit long for some in this forum, which may result in people 'skim-reading' them.

By now the MO of these JWs should be obvious. They post questions to bait readers into a debate in which they wont answer questions that you pose to them. That is the worst form of trolling. They should be ignored.

Originally posted by divegeester
Is this a Sunday school quiz?

Nope. Just a question for discussion....

Is real truth attainable or is truth just relative on a spiritual level?

Originally posted by galveston75
John 4:23-24
New Living Translation (NLT)

23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

What is the "truth" the Bible speaks of?

There are theories of truth. The semantic theory, the correspondence theory, etc. I'd ask the Bible believers to answer what theory of truth applies to the Bible.

Saying "whatever is in the Bible" doesn't seem to work, as the arguments have sometimes involved fire and at least, heated remarks on this forum. Such a theory equates to "whatever I (and sometimes, my army) believe the Bible says."

Three theories are at:

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/Truth_theories.html

These and others are found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth

Originally posted by FabianFnas
A very good answer. Thank you.

I was just aiming towards the fact that we don't know very much about Jesus Christ. Do we even know his true name?

I believe we do. It is exactly the same name as the one we call "Joshua"
in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible. All indicators point to "Yahshua"
as being His Hebrew or Jewish name.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
It's about what you know about Jesus? Then what do you know? Skip the hearsay, just give me the facts.
First - what was his real name?

Yahshua (Jesus) was known by the name "the Christ" by all secular
historical accounts outside the writings compiled to make the NT.
Even though the Jewish religious leaders refused to accept Him as
their promised King and Messiah (Christ) many of the common
Israelites, including Jewish people, did. They became known in
Greek as the Christians. Even the Roman governor, over Jerusalem
who allowed Jesus to be crucified, recognized Him as King of the Jews
by having that inscription placed above His head on the cross. So
that should give you some clue as to who He was believed to be.

Originally posted by galveston75
Is real truth attainable or is truth just relative on a spiritual level?

So is relativism of the Bible's truths acceptable to God? Is he exact in his laws for us or does he leave it up to us to interpret them as we see fit?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Yahshua (Jesus) was known by the name "the Christ" by all secular
historical accounts outside the writings compiled to make the NT.
Even though the Jewish religious leaders refused to accept Him as
their promised King and Messiah (Christ) many of the common
Israelites, including Jewish people, did. They became known in
Greek as the Christians. Even th ...[text shortened]... ve His head on the cross. So
that should give you some clue as to who He was believed to be.

Yahshua, you say? They had modern letters at that time? I cannot believe it.

Then you say that he was known by the name "the Christ" a thousand before the language of English was established a whole continent away.

"Even the Roman governor recognized Him as King of the Jews" you say. Are you really sure it was not without irony? I know a worksman at a pig farm who was called "King of the Pigs", because he smelled like them. I think that was irony too.

If your source is the gospels, then you should know that the information written there was written long time after, of people not being there at the time, written by a purpose of establish the new religion, just hearsay, nothing more.