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What 'makes you' believe?

What 'makes you' believe?

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Oh dear you sound upset.


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Settle down, tiger.

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Keep on trolling my family if it makes you feel better about yourself.

By the way, great job derailing the thread. Mission accomplished.

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No, are you implying that everyone in a pub is an alcoholic?


Originally posted by @romans1009
You clearly believed in God at one point (as you said you were a Christian for decades) so you found His existence to be credible.

What caused what you previously found to be credible to no longer be credible?
I have already told you that I am not interested in discussing it with you.


Originally posted by @romans1009
I think your claim of being a former Christian is about as true as Ghost’s claim of having a theology degree. No wonder you don’t want to talk about it.
You have said that Ghost of a Duke is lying about having a theology degree. If you think I am lying about being a former Christian, you are mistaken.


Originally posted by @romans1009
Your claim of being a former Christian, imo, is as false as Ghost’s claim of having a degree in theology.
My claim to have been a Christian in the past is not false.

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Originally posted by @romans1009 to dj2becker
I don’t think [FMF] was ever a Christian nor do I think he thinks that.
I was.


Originally posted by @romans1009 to dj2becker
If that’s the case, then I’d say [FMF] wasn’t a Christian and it’s deceptive on his part to say he was,
I was a Christian. I am not being deceptive.


FMF: Yes, it's obvious that I am not interested in discussing something as personal as my loss of faith with you - a person who posts like an obnoxious child day in day out - and who has repeatedly called me a liar for claiming that I used to have that faith.

Originally posted by @romans1009
I have never “repeatedly called (you) a liar.” That is a lie..
Yes, you have.


Originally posted by @fmf
I was a Christian. I am not being deceptive.
Were you born a Christian or was there a specific time in your life where you were convinced Christianity is the truth and you decided to follow the teachings of Christ?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Were you born a Christian or was there a specific time in your life where you were convinced Christianity is the truth and you decided to follow the teachings of Christ?
I am not interested in discussing it with you or revealing anything more about it to you than I already have.


Originally posted by @fmf
Once I realized I no longer believed the claims that Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus' life, I stopped self-identifying as a Christian and have self-identified as a non-Christian ever since.
This post is why I don’t think you were a Christian. I wasn’t trolling you when I said it.

You apparently became an atheist because you “no longer believed the claims that Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus’ life.”

So, presumably, you became a Christian based on believing the claims that Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus’ life.

Nothing about believing in God and then not believing in God. Nothing about believing in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and then not believing it. Nothing about believing Jesus was God in the flesh and then not believing that.

You simply no longer believed claims Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus’ life.

Did you ever accept Christ into your heart and believe God raised Him from the dead? Did you ever think you satisfied John 3:16 and Romans 10:9? If your answer to those questions is “No,” then I honestly don’t think you were ever a Christian. I’m not trolling you; I’m just giving you my opinion.

And you don’t have to answer those questions publicly and I’m not asking you to. I’m just asking you to privately consider them.


Originally posted by @romans1009
This post is why I don’t think you were a Christian.
I was a Christian.


Originally posted by @romans1009
You apparently became an atheist because you “no longer believed the claims that Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus’ life.”
I realized I no longer subscribed to the claims that Christians make about being "saved" by Jesus and the claims about the divinity of Jesus and the significance of his death, so I realized I was no longer a Christian. I am not lying about it as you have repeatedly suggested.