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What 'makes you' believe?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Neither of us is lying.
Ghost is lying about having a theology degree. You’re just mistaken about being a former Christian and I say that *based on your own explanation for why you are no longer a Christian.*


Originally posted by @fmf
I am not "flipping and flopping around" at all. I have been 100% clear about why I went from being a Christian to being a non-Christian. I have not lied about any aspect of it.
“100% clear?”

Most of your posts are simply your well-worn cop out of why you won’t discuss it.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
You were blatantly and shamelessly lying.
No, I was not.


Originally posted by @fmf
I haven't lied about anything.
That’s another lie.


Originally posted by @romans1009
“100% clear?”
Yes, this: My loss of faith was a gradual process of reflection that resulted in me realizing that I no longer believed the claims that Christians make about themselves and about the meaning of Jesus' life, and consequently I stopped self-identifying as a Christian and now self-identify as a non-Christian and an agnostic atheist.

It's 100% clear. It is not a lie. Nor have I lied about it.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
But you’ve definitely been lying - and lying repeatedly - about why you are no longer a Christian.
No, I am not lying about why I am no longer a Christian.


Originally posted by @fmf
Neither Ghost of a Duke nor I have lied about anything.
LOL


Romans1009 has reached his foetal position.


Originally posted by @fmf
No, I am not lying about why I am no longer a Christian.
Once your initial explanation was exposed as being absurd, you lied in claiming not to have said it. You then tried to revise it and claim the revisions were the original explanation. Having failed at that lie, you’re now going back to the original and claiming it means what it clearly and obviously doesn’t mean.

Bad (or sick) guy!

You’re a bad hombre!


Originally posted by @romans1009
Once your initial explanation was exposed as being absurd, you lied in claiming not to have said it. You then tried to revise it and claim the revisions were the original explanation. Having failed at that lie, you’re now going back to the original and claiming it means what it clearly and obviously doesn’t mean.

Bad (or sick) guy!

You’re a bad hombre!
My original explanation was fine. It was cogent, it was succinct, it said all it needed to say. It was not intended to be a list of Christian beliefs. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the initial explanation and I have not lied about what it clearly means since posting it.

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Having failed at that lie, you’re now going back to the original and claiming it means what it clearly and obviously doesn’t mean.
There have been no lies.


Originally posted by @romans1009
But you’ve definitely been lying - and lying repeatedly - about why you are no longer a Christian.
I have been telling the truth all along.


Originally posted by @romans1009
Bad (or sick) guy! You’re a bad hombre!
Your fake bonhomie is not going to disguise your silliness on this thread.


Originally posted by @fmf
Romans1009 has reached his foetal position.
Exposing Ghost was easy after he made the mistake of trying to answer basic theological questions.

Exposing you was more difficult because when you’re trying to obfuscate, which is often, you write these vague, mealy-mouthed sentences that can mean just about anything.

But your mistake in trying to hide in ambiguity is eventually the smoke clears and your carefully-crafted, nebulous, lawyerly - and ultimately meaningless - assertions fall apart under the slightest questioning.

No wonder you keep saying you don’t want to discuss it. You’d rather keep the smoke heavy and thick.


Originally posted by @fmf
My original explanation was fine. It was cogent, it was succinct, it said all it needed to say. It was not intended to be a list of Christian beliefs. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the initial explanation and I have not lied about what it clearly means since posting it.
Exposing you wasn’t easy because when you’re trying to obfuscate, which is often, you write these vague, mealy-mouthed sentences that can mean just about anything.

But your mistake in trying to hide in ambiguity is eventually the smoke clears and your carefully-crafted, nebulous, lawyerly - and ultimately meaningless - assertions fall apart under the slightest questioning.

No wonder you keep saying you don’t want to discuss it. You’d rather keep the smoke heavy and thick.